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    If an election were held tomorrow, Ed Miliband would win by a landslide

    Our model suggests that if we went to the polls today, Ed Miliband would gain 120 seats and become prime minister with a powerful majority of 106. (By comparison, Blair had a majority of 167 in 2001, cut to 67 in 2005.)

    The Tories would lose 98 seats, down to 223, and the Lib Dems would lose more than half, down from 57 to 23.


    read more here .. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ma...y-a-landslide/
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    David Cameron is strong at standing up to the weak but weak standing up to the strong - Ed Milliband


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    Socialism doesn't work. People can see through his infantile student union type rhetoric and that he accepts no responsibility for the econonic and immigration mess left by the last Labour government in which he served as a minister


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    David Cameron is strong at standing up to the weak but weak standing up to the strong - Ed Milliband
    Mays got more than Cameron

    dedworth what does work then , you forget the mess thatcher left the country in
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    David Cameron - The Irish Robin Hood - He takes from the poor and gives to the rich
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    This country has been run with the party in charge playing with a credit card for decades.
    Labour......ooh look a nice shiny new card, let's go spent roll on a few years and oops look at the bill.
    Conservative..... here we go again paying off labour's debts, maybe the nation will remember this time and give us another term.
    Election time..... general public has forgotten the debts labour has run up and remembers the hard times we're in because conservative's have been paying off the debt.
    Result.... we'll vote labour back in and give them a new shiny credit card to start all over again


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    oh come on, thatcher was prime-minister for 11yrs, i remember the record number of people unemployed under her, the selling off, of everything , I'm sure you can find many reports not just on socialist workers websites that the gap btw the rich and the poor widened under thatcher the milk snatcher.

    most of the world was hit by the banking crisis and recession, how can you blame just labour for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    This country has been run with the party in charge playing with a credit card for decades.
    Labour......ooh look a nice shiny new card, let's go spent roll on a few years and oops look at the bill.
    Conservative..... here we go again paying off labour's debts, maybe the nation will remember this time and give us another term.
    Election time..... general public has forgotten the debts labour has run up and remembers the hard times we're in because conservative's have been paying off the debt.
    Result.... we'll vote labour back in and give them a new shiny credit card to start all over again
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    ...and what do they ALL say ?

    No more 'boom and bust' !


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    @joe:

    I most certainly CAN blame Labour, because they were in charge of the country's finances and OUR banking system...AND the REGULATION of our banking system.

    Who else was running the country (apart from the interfering EU pratts of course ) ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Mays got more than Cameron

    dedworth what does work then , you forget the mess thatcher left the country in
    Still going back to ancient history Joe I know it's a standard socialist ploy.You're reminding me of former board lefty IainBusby who legged it after Labours 2010 election mauling -He used to pin the slave trade, general strike etc on the Tories


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    @joe:

    I most certainly CAN blame Labour, because they were in charge of the country's finances and OUR banking system...AND the REGULATION of our banking system.

    Who else was running the country (apart from the interfering EU pratts of course ) ?
    and the Tories are not to blame for the yuppies and greed of the 80's ?

    Labour’s 9th June 1983 Manifesto: The longest suicide note in history or 30 years before its time?


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    http://kmflett.wordpress.com/2013/06...fore-its-time/



    Just read the header.......... blogging about beards, beer and socialism




    nothing else to add


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    http://kmflett.wordpress.com/2013/06...fore-its-time/



    Just read the header.......... blogging about beards, beer and socialism




    nothing else to add
    still beards and beer here

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...state-takeover

    read and learn

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    Milipedes Marxist father and the real reason he wants to drag us back to the nightmare 70s

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html#comments

    Mail reader sums up

    Milibands father was a Marxist who was also a millionaire who lived in a mansion ,funny that they live like that and not on a housing estate with the people who they say they care for.


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    the daily mail

    Milipedes Marxist father vs the Bullingdon boys

    also from the daily mail
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ent-image.html

    i know who i would vote for
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    I blame the aliens and their probes
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    the daily mail

    Milipedes Marxist father vs the Bullingdon boys

    also from the daily mail
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ent-image.html

    i know who i would vote for
    Lets go and wreck a resturant and while we are at it privatise the NHS and Royal Mail with it.
    Another 2 companies sold off under the tories.


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    Shock horror, Oxford students get drunk on champagne story

    When did the NHS get privatised


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post

    When did the NHS get privatised
    you obviously don't work for the NHS, not just the privatizing of the NHS by the back door but its destruction, because if you did you will have noticed closures, cut backs and services going to private companies.
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    you obviously don't work for the NHS, not just the privatizing of the NHS by the back door but its destruction, because if you did you will have noticed closures, cut backs and services going to private companies.
    you obviously shouldn't make such enormous presumptions about my job
    I deal with both the NHS and private hospitals all day every day


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    you obviously shouldn't make such enormous presumptions about my job
    I deal with both the NHS and private hospitals all day every day
    you don't work for the NHS thou
    speak to people who do, like andy and oh my misses
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    Believe me Joe, I know exactly what's going on within the NHS, as I said I deal with most of the major hospitals in the south and London as well as all of the big private hospitals in London.
    I could literally save the NHS millions a year, but with their cut backs the money I could save them just gets diverted into a different budget


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Believe me Joe, I know exactly what's going on within the NHS, as I said I deal with most of the major hospitals in the south and London as well as all of the big private hospitals in London.
    I could literally save the NHS millions a year, but with their cut backs the money I could save them just gets diverted into a different budget
    so if you deal with them you would have noticed the closures, the cut backs and this post i made last week

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....ghlight=nurses

    you must have missed this then
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    You're right I did miss it, as you've probably noticed I'm not exactly backward when it comes to expressing an opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    You're right I did miss it, as you've probably noticed I'm not exactly backward when it comes to expressing an opinion
    but its enough to get dozens of Filipino's nurses out on the street protesting, not something you see much here, and you dont think there is a problem even thou you dont work for the NHS but they do
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Milliband must be in with a shout of a Nobel Peace Prize in October after arguably saving tens of thousands of lives by stopping war monger Cameron in his tracks. The Americans bottled it as well once they realised they only had the French for support.
    Cameron is a man of many words but so few actions. He has continued through this Parliament blaming Labour for everything but not really tackling anything. I have visions of him standing again 2015 on a platform of its all Labours fault.
    I honestly believe that Cameron could have won the next election if he had simply giving the people a referendum in this one instead of trying to fool the people with a promise of a referendum in the next.
    Neither Cameron or Milliband seem intent on tackling the most serious problems facing us at the moment so neither of them will be getting my vote.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    but its enough to get dozens of Filipino's nurses out on the street protesting, not something you see much here, and you dont think there is a problem even thou you dont work for the NHS but they do

    Woohaa hang on a second, when did I say there wasn't a problem
    I asked when the NHS had been privatised, I never stated there wasn't a problem did I?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Woohaa hang on a second, when did I say there wasn't a problem
    I asked when the NHS had been privatised, I never stated there wasn't a problem did I?
    privatization is the problem, tell me how a private company can provide a service and make still make a profit (after all that's the aim of any company) and be cheaper than directly employing NHS staff, unless they pay less or employ less people to carry out that service ?
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Ok back to facts as posted on this thread:-

    Andy222 said the NHS has been privatised...........I asked when (post 17 & 18)
    You then said that I don't think there's a problem (post 25)
    I defend myself saying I never said that (post 27)

    So once again, I didn't say there wasn't a problem, I asked when the NHS was privatised. The same question still stands.


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    you don't think its been privatized slowly and in some cases by the backdoor ?

    you didnt answer my last question, how can a company make a profit by providing a service and be cheaper than employing staff directly.

    well one way is that the company who make the product could put in a bid to provide the service, because they make the product their cost price is a lot less than what they charge the NHS, maybe the NHS is paying too much for that product? competition drives down prices, so they can afford to put in a lower bid than anyone else, guess what once the company has the contract for the service, they use only their product they make, a monopoly
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