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    Children born in the UK to filipino mothers

    Where do these children stand with getting citizenship and being able to own land and house.
    We bought a house 10 years ago in the gated community and i would like to think our children would be able to own what we have there.
    We are in the Philippines 2-3 times a year for one month spells and we plan to move out there for good in 2.5 years time. Our children will have been born in the UK.


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    Is your wife a dual national Rory? Usually when they become dual nationals,her kids are included in that process which automatically makes them Filipino citizens...This will make it much easier for them to claim their hereditary rights one day.
    Good luck with your move BTW. It's a very smart move IMO given the absolute mess the UK has become.


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    We have been planning the move for many years and have just been putting everything in place so there are no large bills to deal with when we do go. I was not so happy with the way the UK was going back then but if i could foresee the future i think our choice is by far the better decision.

    When my wife got her British citizenship she was dual for a couple of years as her filipino passport still had 2 years left on it. We have not been down to the Philippine Embassy in London to apply for her duel citizenship. We have looked in to it but never got around to it. You think this is advisable to proceed with sooner rather that later? We would have to get her filipino citizenship status back before we left the UK anyway if we are going to be permanently based in the Philippines.


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    Yes..Get the Mrs to get that done ASAP along with your kids as dual nationals..Phil passport now has 10 year validity so really it's a no Brainer.. I would have also suggested that you apply for the 13a visa in the UK but I'm not sure they entertain that process any longer..Still best to inquire while your at the embassy though...cheers.


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    In addition to the advice given above, I can add some from my own experience.

    The older of my two sons was born in the UK to a Filipina mother (in 1993). I procured a British passport for him when he was only 2 months old, and we were still in the UK.

    When he was around 2 years old, and we were then living in the Phils, I applied for what is known as 'Recognition' (as a Filipino Citizen...with full rights) on his behalf. He was granted this 'Recognition' at that time, (mother's birth cert needed, his thumb print, photos, etc), complete with government certification, though he has never bothered to apply for a Filipino Passport, to which he is entitled. He lives in the UK, with no intention of any long stays here in the Phils. I did take his (dual national) younger brother to visit with him in the UK last April/May though. Only 22 years difference in their ages. lol...but a great relationship between them.

    Anyway, this system of 'Recognition' apparently still operates, and you can find details about it on the Philippines Bureau of Immigration official website.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and seasons greetings sir !


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Yes..Get the Mrs to get that done ASAP along with your kids as dual nationals..Phil passport now has 10 year validity so really it's a no Brainer.. I would have also suggested that you apply for the 13a visa in the UK but I'm not sure they entertain that process any longer..Still best to inquire while your at the embassy though...cheers.
    Good idea...IF , as you say, they still process at the London embassy. It saves doing a years 'Probationary' 13A (in the Phils) before getting the full one (which I do have).

    I know they stopped during Covid. Possible UK police report needed ? In the Phils once you've been there 6 months, and applying for 13A, only a cheap and quick NBI clearance needed.

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours Fred.


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    Thanks to both of you for your advice above. Very helpful indeed.
    I will look in to the 13A at the embassy as well.
    Good to know they can get filipino citizenship if still born outside of the Philippines.


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    You're welcome Rory.
    As long as you have birth certs and any other needed 'proofs' to hand, the processing is quite straightforward.
    When processing the 13A in the Phils, they do get a bit confused at the way our names are listed on our (UK) passports, so will probably ask for a written declaration, with a local Phils notary stamp confirming that there is no problem with that. The Attorneys close to Immigration are familiar with the documentation needed, and for a couple to three thou pesos you'll be pretty much done and dusted. Just add on the fixed 13A fee to Immigration (About p11,500).

    Our local Dagupan Immigration office were most helpful. They help you do all the paperwork, then send it off to Manila for approval. No agent needed.

    Earlier this year I had a most enjoyable visit back to York...my UK home city (first time back in the UK after 5 years) accompanied by my Phils-born 8 year-old son, and my York-born 30 year-old son...who also has a Filipina mum. First time they'd met 'face to face'.
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    Good luck to you and your family.


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    Hope you had a nice holiday back in the UK Graham..looks like you did.. I may go back someday myself for a brief visit but only in the Summer months! Happy new year!


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    Cheers Fred, and same to you and yours.

    Not missing much in the UK, apart from any loved ones still there of course. (We also visited with my 96 year-old mum). Place seems to be going downhill fast. Usual problems. Say no more. Sad to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Cheers Fred, and same to you and yours.

    Not missing much in the UK, apart from any loved ones still there of course. (We also visited with my 96 year-old mum). Place seems to be going downhill fast. Usual problems. Say no more. Sad to see.
    The UK is getting a worse place to live every year. We will be off in less that 3 years and we have no plans to return.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    The UK is getting a worse place to live every year. We will be off in less that 3 years and we have no plans to return.
    Indeed that’s my thoughts about the UK too, we are looking at being in the Philippines next Christmas and hoping to find a place we can call home , renting not buying though


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    Nice to see you posting Steve.

    I've been here in the Phils since 2018, (with a 13A visa) and no regrets so far.

    Rented (from 2016) before buying land, and building our modest home.


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    Hopefully we can find somewhere where we both will be happy , we will do the usual things go to the nice places and stay while we look for a place ,but I don’t want to be anywhere near the family a flight in distance would be fine , but another problem I have is Emma she loves being here in the UK , Bohol I do like that could be our starting point


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    My missus doesn’t ever want to move back to Philippines. Why when we can get the mother in law here for 6 months

    Only 5 months left!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    My missus doesn’t ever want to move back to Philippines. Why when we can get the mother in law here for 6 months

    Only 5 months left!
    Haha....ooops !


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Hopefully we can find somewhere where we both will be happy , we will do the usual things go to the nice places and stay while we look for a place ,but I don’t want to be anywhere near the family a flight in distance would be fine , but another problem I have is Emma she loves being here in the UK , Bohol I do like that could be our starting point
    Give me a shout when you are ready to give Bohol a shot!


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Hopefully we can find somewhere where we both will be happy , we will do the usual things go to the nice places and stay while we look for a place ,but I don’t want to be anywhere near the family a flight in distance would be fine , but another problem I have is Emma she loves being here in the UK , Bohol I do like that could be our starting point
    Maybe i am wrong Steve but i thought you were building a few years back ?


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    Yep we knocked down the old family house and had it rebuilt but knowing it would be ours , well I’m told it will be ours but not the land it’s built on anyway it’s a long story and I’ve walked away from that house and some of the family too,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Yep we knocked down the old family house and had it rebuilt but knowing it would be ours , well I’m told it will be ours but not the land it’s built on anyway it’s a long story and I’ve walked away from that house and some of the family too,
    Ouch! Common story here.


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    That was some serious money you invested there as well, i remember the pictures as it was getting built.

    We have ploughed over 6 million peso in to our house and land in the philippines. Luckily there is only the wife and i involved and the wife's mother is looking after it when we are not there. Will not have any of her family there. Found out that one of her brothers was living there for 6 months at one point, took a month to get him out of there and told him he is not welcome any more. The wife did not know about her brother staying there and was annoyed as much as i was but blood is thicker than water and i was in the dog house for a short period when i told him to vacate in a few choice words. She did understand where i was coming from ..... in the end.


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    End of the day how I see it is Emma wanted a better home for her dad , her sisters all promised to build him a better home once they started work but it never worked out so Emma was working here and saving hard for us both but we both decided to build the house and the cost was very good too, lots of great advice was given to me and the most important one was , make sure you can afford to walk away and we have and life is great not having to think what’s happening to the house ,paying bills for the house then if anything happens it’s down to them over there


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