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    Facts or misinfo?





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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Facts or misinfo?
    Well presented carefully selected facts.

    HART is a UK political pressure group of self-appointed "experts", that hides behind a deliberately vague and inoffensive mission statement.

    Our core aim is to widen the scientific debate and to consider all of the available evidence, in order to formulate strategies that benefit everyone in society.
    Irrelevant now that the UK is easing out of its lockdown restrictions.

    Social distancing has served its purpose and the UK vaccine rollout has been a stonking success.


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    Well presented carefully selected facts.
    Dave.. In order to dispel any misinformation that may endanger anyone naïve enough to believe the so called spinning of facts in the document above,where does the argument it presents fall down?
    If ANY of the facts presented are true then why are we being lied to just about every day with such horrific scare tactics,loss of freedom, lock downs and an assault to the worlds economy?
    I read yesterday that the UK`s borrowing is now on par with the financial situation during WW11.
    I keep looking for info on the BEEB about these question millions of us are asking but nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_ View Post
    Well presented carefully selected facts.
    Take a step back.

    "A healthy 75-year-old woman has a 99.8251% chance of surviving"

    Almost two in a thousand healthy 75-year-old women will be killed by the virus.

    That actually raises the important question:

    What is a healthy 75-year-old woman?
    - What percentage of 75-year-olds are included in these statistics, is it only physically active 75-year-old marathon runners and fell walkers?
    - What about the others who are excluded from these carefully selected facts.

    Worth noting that the death rates presented have been kept low by the lockdown, social distancing, and availability of hospital care when needed. Without these, the figures would undoubtedly be very different.

    The data is from August last year, treatment and survival rates in the UK have improved since then. Most of the country is now back at work and social distancing seems to be on the way out.


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    Marketing emergency rebranding operation.




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    World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise.




    Seychelles, which has fully vaccinated more of its population against the coronavirus than any other country, has closed schools and canceled sporting activities for two weeks as infections surge.

    The measures, which include bans on the intermingling of households and the early closure of bars, come even as the country has fully vaccinated more than 60% of its adult population with two doses of Covid-19 vaccines. The curbs are similar to those last imposed at the end of 2020.
    “Despite of all the exceptional efforts we are making, the Covid-19 situation in our country is critical right now, with many daily cases reported last week,” Peggy Vidot, the nation’s health minister, said at a press conference Tuesday.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...se/ar-BB1gntUb


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    World’s Most-Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise.
    Interesting, the vaccination programme seems to be going well elsewhere yet the infection rate in Seychelles is soaring, up 277% since last week.

    Seychelles has a population of less than 100,000, 451 new cases were supposedly reported on 30th April.

    Could it be the efficacy of the particular vaccine batch used in Seychelles, the local testing procedures, or some other localised circumstance?


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    What has happened in Seychelles actually confirms that the vaccine is working as expected.

    Yet curiously what is happening in the Seychelles does not deny, but actually confirms, the promise of vaccines.

    The country relied heavily on China’s Sinopharm vaccine, which is rated little more than 50 per cent effective at preventing infection. And just as such protection rate figures would imply, half as many jabbed people as non-jabbed have been infected in the new Seychelles outbreak.

    Significantly, however, the Chinese vaccine, like all vaccines, is highly effective (more than 80 per cent) at preventing serious illness.
    Link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...onal-lockdown/

    Sinovac as used in Seychelles is only rated at about 50% effective. For comparison, Pfizer is rated at 95% effective and AstraZeneca over 90% after the second dose.

    All three vaccines serve to prevent serious illness, hospitalisation, and death.


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    Philippines' Duterte apologises for taking unapproved China jab

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57004924


    My wife's father and Aunt have had a covid vaccine a couple of weeks ago, they are in Puerto Princesa not sure which one thou.

    click on the 'total cases' tab and the UK is 7th with over 4 million, yet look at the 'new cases' and 'new death' fields, they are now a lot lower than many countries and have been for weeks. 5 deaths and 2000 new cases.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    click on the 'total cases' tab and the UK is 7th with over 4 million, yet look at the 'new cases' and 'new death' fields, they are now a lot lower than many countries and have been for weeks. 5 deaths and 2000 new cases.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    Thanks, that's a good site for checking out the statistics.

    Another two million doses of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine arrived in Manila on Saturday via the COVAX scheme, a lot more is needed.


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