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    Calls To End "Them & Us" Attitude Between Cyclists And Motorists

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...d-us-mentality ...

    Frankly ... ... I cannot envisage that happening anytime soon!



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    That's easy to resolve. Road tax cyclist - who must have insurance and cycle sensibly on the road. Take away the cyclist lanes then it would be more equal. Oh, and a cyclist licence.

    Or stop road tax and insurance for motorists to bring them in line with, and equal to cyclists.


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    Many of us have been both cyclists and motorists... paying all our exorbitant taxes too !

    A cyclist is very vulnerable, merely seeking to keep fit and healthy, putting out no pollution, doing zero damage to road surfaces, while taking up little space. Impatient, inconsiderate motorists in their cosy 1 ton metal cocoons should remember that.
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    I love my e bike. Means I can leave the car at home. Commute 16 miles to work and it only costs a few pence in electricity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Many of us have been both cyclists and motorists... paying all our exorbitant taxes too !

    A cyclist is very vulnerable, merely seeking to keep fit and healthy, putting out no pollution, doing zero damage to road surfaces, while taking up little space. Impatient, inconsiderate motorists in their cosy 1 ton metal cocoons should remember that.
    Graham, ... collectively, ALL of the factors you've listed, are s ... *each of which, , is as *valid as the next in its own right.


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    Thankyooo !


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    Yes, good points Graham, but also like some bad car drivers I've seen some real idiots on push bikes, side by side/weaving to annoy the driver behind. That's just a few examples, but in truth I've seen more bad car drivers than I have seen bad cyclists


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    Yes, good points Graham, but also like some bad car drivers I've seen some real idiots on push bikes, side by side/weaving to annoy the driver behind. That's just a few examples, but in truth I've seen more bad car drivers than I have seen bad cyclists
    ................................................................................................. Being a [former] keen cyclist, Stewart, I'd have to say, "'s the spirit ... now you're talking!"


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    ... and of course a vehicle driver is is in charge of a very much more potentially dangerous piece of metal than a cyclist is... speaking as one who was very nearly killed when knocked off my bike when 16 years of age and on my way to school, in the 'cycling city' of York.


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    Graham, those penny farthings must have been difficult to ride ....


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    well guys my first comment about taxing them was actually meant more as jest, i do understand the plight of the cyclist , being a motorcycle driver before i moved on to driving a car, have seen the carelessness of many car drivers , they dont think bike unless they have had experience as a cyclist or motor cyclist, they need to be more observant, especially to be aware of that blind spot,


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