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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Why do shirt lifters need to get married anyway??
    ... without wishing to appear prejudiced in any way, I concur with your view, Fred ... and abide by my concluding statement in #18 whereby, IMO, authorising such a practice serves to distort the true purpose and intended sanctity of conventional marriage.

    Having said that, Amaw's reasoning [#52] constitutes a about the degree of security offered by a civil partnership ... with which in principle!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    Nobody, probably. If they do get divorced and carry on living together aren't they committing a sin in the eyes of God?
    Quite rightly so. And let them experience why people want to get legally married. Let them experience all the legal rights taken away from them once they get divorced! But obviously, this couple have no idea or didn't do enough research about divorce. According to Australia's Family Act, they need to be separated for 12 months before divorce can be granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... without wishing to appear prejudiced in any way, I concur with your view, Fred ... and abide by my concluding statement in #18 whereby, IMO, authorising such a practice serves to distort the true purpose and intended sanctity of conventional marriage.
    Couldn't agree more Art!


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    It was only in 342AD that the Christian church banned same sex marriage, before that it was perfectly normal, and no one took any notice. Same sex unions are noted during the Ming Dynasty, the Almanac of Incantations from Ancient Egypt, Native Americas, and pretty much every culture.

    Remember, astronomy and women priests where banned by Christians at one point, yet we do not wish Brian Cox or female members of the clergy to burn in hell!

    As it was only banned based on an untrue story, then it was obviously the wrong decision, as for thousands of years it was normal in pretty much every culture on the planet..... and still is to this day.
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    Interesting Keith, are you saying marriage was normal or that same sex relationships were allowed ?

    If marriage how was that defined please ?


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    My post says 'same sex marriage'. They wouldn't ban it if it wasn't already happening.

    As for the definition of marriage, that depends on the culture and religion, plus the time of that definition. It is not a one fits all. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...hich-tradition

    Marriage, Christmas, Easter, and many other thing are all taken from other cultures and religions. Christianity just hijacked them.
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    Whilst it cannot be denied that homosexual activity has been around in all its forms, in every culture and among all levels of creation, ever since the world began ... historically, Western society in particular has, throughout the intervening millennia, frowned upon such acts being engaged in by humanity as -at best, unnatural and at worst, downright degrading - much more in keeping with the very sort of behaviour one might attribute to the animal kingdom, rather than to do with any perceived religious doctrine or objection(s).

    Lest it be forgotten, its practice in the UK was illegal [think Oscar Wilde!] - punishable by imprisonment - up until it was decriminalised, first in England & Wales in 1967 ... with the proviso that any sexual intimacy between two men (each of whom had to have attained the age of 21) took place in PRIVATE ... followed by Scotland in 1980
    then, finally, Northern Ireland a couple of years later.


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    Next on the agenda. Fun for all the family - the legalisation of incest.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ttee-says.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    Next on the agenda. Fun for all the family - the *legalisation of incest.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ttee-says.html
    ... now *that really would be scraping the bottom of the barrel, Jamie ... !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... now *that really would be scraping the bottom of the barrel, Jamie ... !
    Nothing would surprise me these days Arthur..If the PC brigade decide to push the agenda,its only a matter of time!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Nothing would surprise me these days Arthur..If the PC brigade decide to push the agenda, its only a matter of time!
    Aye, you're right ... it's a fact.

    Oh, dearie me ... how British moral standards have slipped!


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    The Philippines won't allow gay marriages. No surprise there.


    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Wor...-marriage.ashx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    The Philippines won't allow gay marriages. No surprise there.


    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Wor...-marriage.ashx


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