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17th November 2014 #1
Can I claim Disabilty Benefits and can I sue my employer
Hi all, more problems
When I was born, my foot was on the wrong way. An operation sorted this but my leg is about 1 inch shorter than the other, there's not much movement in my ankle and it gives me very sharp pains if i walk about a mile. Sometimes any distance. So what are my chances of being able to claim disability benefits?
Over the last 15 years I've had a number of jobs. All have given me bad shoulder pains. 1 year ago - in the job I have now - I had to lift a heavy box on top of another box on the top shelf. Since then, I've had a lot of back and neck pain, even when I'm trying to sleep.
Sometimes the 2cubic ft cardboard boxes can be over 25kg. I have to stand while I scan documents, can't sit, cant tell them that I'm having pain in my back because they will put me on a sitting job preparing documents and that gives me nasty shoulder pains, so i can't win.
Also about this scanning job, the hourly count is too high and I've had 2 warnings. It's easy to get the hourly count if the documents are in good condition. This makes the other 4 scanning operators fight for the best boxes and i usually end up with the bad boxes. It only takes one bad box to ruin my average count for the whole day. I've told the boss about the other guys, but she says I still need to get my count. If I don't get my count more than 4 times a month, I'll get further warnings and possibly dismissal.
I'm thinking of quitting this job. I'm only just about hanging on to it after all the time I've had off because of back and neck pain and I've already had warnings for that also.
I have been to an osteopath 4 times - but no difference. The doctor has said to make an appointment at the physiotherapist. I'm still to do this but I think I'll have to pay.
So what do you think I should do? Any advice will be appreciated
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17th November 2014 #2
Mmm ... it's a difficult one, Tony!
Naturally I am very sorry to read about your predicament. But then, with me being fully retired for many years now, I'm probably not the best person to give you advice on work-related problems - especially those caused by physical stress and strain.
Perhaps someone here who deals with personnel issues might well be able to suggest a suitable course of action. However ... ... I do honestly believe you're going to need to consult a physiotherapist sooner or later.
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17th November 2014 #3
C.A.B might help
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
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17th November 2014 #4
Sounds like you need your doctor to refer you to the right specialist so you can find out what is really going on with your shoulders/back. This may take some persistence on your part after they have tried pain killers, physiotherapy etc. Maybe your company maybe should be asking the advice of Occupational Health to make sure what they are asking you to do isn't making your health worse. They might say you are not capable of doing the job but of course this might not be what you want. I would start with your GP.
Last edited by lordna; 17th November 2014 at 08:51. Reason: add something
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17th November 2014 #5
Just thought i would add I never had to pay for Physio because i was referred by the GP, so ask to be referred. If he says no then ask to be referred to a specialist or say you want a second opinion (to which you ae entitled).
I had lots of back and leg pain and had to put up with pain killers/physio etc etc all of which did nothing. Eventually I got referred to a Consultant Orthopaedic surgeon (perhaps this is what you need) who after a brief examination referred me for an MRI scan. This revealed problems in my spine and I was referred to a Neurological consultant. Eventually they found several tumours on my spine which have now been removed. Had I not been persistent and got the right consultant I probably would have been completely paralysed by now so worth being a bit pushy! Good Luck!
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17th November 2014 #6
Think carefully before giving up your job as they are cracking down on disability claimants thanks to Ian Duncan Dickhead Smith. It won,t be easy getting a successful claim. But if you gotta give up due to the pain, then not a lot you can do about it. The government are even targeting war pensioners like myself on disabilty. I,ve had 4 operations plus more to come. As I get older myself. might have to be reassessed.
It,s a damn disgrace what is happening right now.
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17th November 2014 #7
What you have you probably have for life, with regard to the pain. What you need is good pain management, as well as trying different physio techniques. Go see your GP and get some pain meds and anti-inflammatories. Ask him if you could try a quick course of steroids.
I live with constant pain, and it is just a case of trying to keep it at a level that is almost acceptable.Keith Driscoll - Administrator
Managing Director, Win2Win Limited
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17th November 2014 #8
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17th November 2014 #9
It is very hard to get disability now. I had to jump hurdles just to get half disability when I was suffering from chemo side effects with cancer. You get a bunch of forms as thick as the old telephone directory. I got help from CAB who, at that time, had a special dept to deal with cancer claimants on this. There is no way I could have coped with these forms without their help. I think they are purposely designed so you will bin them and forget it. You have to attend somewhere, I forget the name, but it is a private company with their own doctor to assess you, If you can walk up 3 steps unaided, if you can walk just a few yards without having to rest, stand up from sitting without using both hands and without losing balance, then forget it!
Try - you never know - but don't just give notice to your employment or you will be penalised.
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17th November 2014 #10
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17th November 2014 #11I forget the name, but it is a private company with their own doctor to asses you
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17th November 2014 #12
Google PIP ALLOWANCE
You can make a claim while still working. Also seek professional advice from CAB/employment solicitor about your situation but don't leave your job until you do so. If they sack you, you may have a case for unfair dismissal.
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17th November 2014 #13
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Sorry to hear about these problems. I guess there are two things here:
1. Finding what causes the shoulder/back pain and seeing if you can fix/reduce it. I'm sure you're already onto this one. As has been said, don't take no for an answer from the doctor. It might be to do with your bad posture caused by the other problems and be correctable with orthopedic aids, experts will know.
2. Finding a job you can do without being in pain. Call centre work from home? Can you sit comfortably in some types of chair, or just a sofa/bed?
The only thing I can suggest is that you take control of the situation with the NHS, and don't give up. You will find a way.
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17th November 2014 #14
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17th November 2014 #15
1. Are you in a union? If your not I would join one and seek their advice.
2. I would think twice about quitting your job as future employers will look at your previous record and why you quit the job.
3. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your wife still under immigration control? Because you need to meet the criteria to keep her here.
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17th November 2014 #16
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17th November 2014 #17
That's good. Thanks for pointing that out Arthur..
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17th November 2014 #18
Good luck and I wish you all the best, but was dismayed to see your title included 'Can I sue my employer'
Unless he has significantly altered your job description, then please don't think I'm being harsh when I say, why should you sue him?
That's just the sort of thing that gets me annoyed. Only to be confirmed by Andy asking if are you in a Union
If your employers have made it impossible for you to do your job, talk to them.
If they have and don't care, sue away - but please don't become like so many who just look to sue because that's the way it has become in this country.
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17th November 2014 #19
Wow, Tony. So sorry to hear of your health problems. I cannot advise what can or can't be done to help your predicament, but I certainly hope that other members may be able to throw some light on your situation. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope your problem can be resolved in the not too distant future. Good luck with your progress!
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17th November 2014 #20
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17th November 2014 #21
Yes but I'm talking in general about suing people. I hope things work out for him. I am sympathetic, but if the employer has done nothing wrong why sue him? He gave you a job. I was an employee for many years Andy. We did not need trouble-mongering unions.
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17th November 2014 #22
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17th November 2014 #23
A union will not take your case on if there is any doubt. The solicitors will act for you thus saving you money. Call it a insurance if you like.
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17th November 2014 #24
Might be worth asking or looking into the companies 'grievance proceedure'
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17th November 2014 #25
What has the company done wrong?
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17th November 2014 #26
Health & Safety Les, you think all companies out there care about that?
I forget the name, but it is a private company with their own doctor to asses youI bet that stops a few people from further pursuing the claims process!!
Now I think it's a French company that does it
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17th November 2014 #27
Health & Safety is important but far over the top these days.
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17th November 2014 #28
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17th November 2014 #29
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I’m sorry to read about your problems.
• Unsurprisingly, paying for four visits to an osteopath has made no difference.
• Your own GP should be able to refer you to an NHS physiotherapist who would not charge you, although you may have to wait for your appointment(s).
The NHS needs more GPs – as soon as possible ! We need at least half of UK medical graduates to become GPs. Very few new medical students say they want to become GPs. Labour wants to recruit 8000 more GPs and the prime minister promises to provide seven day access to a GP by 2020 — without saying how !
• Most GPs are dedicated. THEY are the experts in primary assessment of patients. Treat them with respect and they will do the same for you – more than likely making the correct diagnosis. Generally they don’t say " no " to specialist referral if they think it’s needed. " Specialists " also have waiting lists for outpatient referrals and treatment.
• It simply adds to stress for the GP if you attend with the attitude of " don’t take no for an answer " or " take control of the situation with the NHS " and demand a specialist !
• NHS patients may well have to pay for appointments in future - as in the Philippines and elsewhere in the world.
• Personal Independence Payment ( PIP ) is a tax-free benefit for people aged 16-64 who have care needs or problems getting about. It replaces Disability Living Allowance ( DLA ). You won't be charged for PIP assessment. If you do need a doctor to assess your eligibility for PIP it will not be your GP - but a doctor appointed by the Assessment Providers ( Atos Healthcare until 2015, and Capita Health and Wellbeing ). The assessment report ; form completed by the claimant ; and any additional evidence ; will be sent to the Department of Work and Pensions, who make the decision.
While I understand applying for PIP may appear complicated, it’s to make sure the assessment is accurate and fair. Best wishes !
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/pers...ndence-payment
https://www.gov.uk/pip/overview
http://www.capitahealthandwellbeing....s#.VGppm_msX5M
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17th November 2014 #30
These probably thought the same, at least they will be going home soon unlike their ex-employee
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-new-job.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-500-000.html
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