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2nd November 2014 #91
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No risk assessments needed either Les
How many firefighters does it take to save a drowning seagull from a 3ft deep pond?
Onlookers in Carshalton pondered this question after health and safety rules prevented 25 firefighters from saving a stricken bird, which had become tangled in a plastic bag.
The farcical scenes at Carshalton Ponds on Saturday saw five fire crews scrambled to save the adult herring gull, which was struggling to survive in the ponds after getting its foot caught in the bag.
But after a health and safety assessment when the five crews arrived shortly after 2pm, it was deemed it was not safe for firefighters to wade out in the waist-deep water to save the floundering bird.
After a stand-off, it was left to a wildlife centre volunteer to pull on his waders and walk out to save the bird.
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2nd November 2014 #92
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2nd November 2014 #93
Real world Dedworth, unlike your world of double standards, how many posts have you made on here about troughing Labour MPs, oh you hardly ever mention the Tory ones
You think £29k a year is good pay for a fireman ? And you think an MP is worthy of£67,060. MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London and in their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency.
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2nd November 2014 #94
Joe, I think you will find that it may only be 145 days a year in parliament but when not there they will/should be in their constituency....
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2nd November 2014 #95
I feel silly saying the same thing, but with Joe on wacky baccy or something, it has to be done.
The people who chose to be Fireman do it out of free will-they know the wage so they don't need bigging up
Why are we comparing it to MPs/Why not compare it to footballers or Golfers, Pop Stars, etc?
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2nd November 2014 #96
I know that, I doubt there is 1 day in a week you could actually go and see your MP, they probably don't have the time doing their second job and claiming expenses.
http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/.../recess-dates/
I wish I had holidays like that
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2nd November 2014 #97
Dedworth,
You should contact the 'Elf and Safety' and ask them why most firefighters on a shout cannot do their jobs as they used to be before these idiotic rules came out.
You are not even allowed to carry a tool box on you own now so how stupid is that.
Remember the summer of 1976 when many men did not go home for days? Who goes in when others run out?
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2nd November 2014 #98
Health and Safety does my head in. For a while we had to carry a First Aid kit in our taxis - but were not allowed to use it on a customer if needed.
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2nd November 2014 #99
It's this Tory gov and MPs who are refusing the NHS a 1% increase and forcing the firemen to work until they are 60
Les, maybe you've been up all night waiting for your rich customers to call and had no sleep. If you had thought for 1 second you would realise when they started working as firemen they were not forced to work doing front-line duties until they were 60. Now the gov has decided to force them to, so your point is irrelevant. When they started as firemen they had not agreed to that
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2nd November 2014 #100
Someone once said to me many years ago, "Don't ever argue with an idiot, they'll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
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2nd November 2014 #101
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2nd November 2014 #102
No, as always you have gone off topic Joe bemoaning their wage not their pension rights or retiring age.
This was what I was replying toyou think £29k a year is good pay for a firemen ?
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2nd November 2014 #103
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2nd November 2014 #104
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2nd November 2014 #105Les, if you want to, why not? At worst, they could sue you - if something went wrong - for not being a trained first aider
Also I have to carry a fire extinguisher - so, in effect, I am a part-time fireman
Great I can go on strike and sing, #You wont get me I'm part of the union#
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2nd November 2014 #106That's why I don't reply to many of your posts, I usually only reply to people who have something to contribute to the forum
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2nd November 2014 #107
YOU CERTAINLY MADE A STATEMENT THERE Les, you and Dedworth need to call the Army in an emergency.
I chose to join the Fire Brigade because it's the job that I wanted to do - and would do it again if I was 18 again - and yes I had a choice.
You dinosaurs think it's normal to expect a firefighter to work longer hours for less pay. Would you? Can you run me round your town for half price or would that be taking the urine?
I got called out at 2 am to a house fire today and got back home at 11.30. So we are there when needed - any time of day or night. Want to swap jobs as you both think its so easy?
Forest fire 3 weeks ago - 54 hours straight until it was controlled! Will invite you both to work with us next summer and see how you both shape up.
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2nd November 2014 #108
Pension Rights Les? They pay that 14.%+ out of their wage. It's not about retiring, I believe they can get their pension at 60 - same as the Police and Armed Forces - what they are objecting to, is being forced to work on the front-line until they are 60 !!
You don't see bobbies on the beat any more, but I'm sure you would say something if 60 yr-olds were on the front-line fight the Taliban
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2nd November 2014 #109
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2nd November 2014 #113
SimonH,
Have a house in Spain and UK family house in Scotland.
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2nd November 2014 #114
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2nd November 2014 #115
Not dinosuars at all, just live in the real world - and it's tougher than it used to be for everyone.
Once again I'm not slagging firefighters off.
Yes, if you said to me, "Do you earn less than you used to for the same hours?" I would say, "Most definitely, yes".
I can say this, I have had to deal with 'abusive - want a fight with you - drunks', Malos and have had a gun waved in my car, so it's not all blue rinse old dears in my job.
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2nd November 2014 #118
I never really cared very much about bitching to employers about pay.. If I didn't like the pay I`d give them an ultimatum..If that didnt work, I left and either found another job or created one like Les did.
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