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    Two more foreigners shot to pieces

    http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de...-de-oro-369444

    You don,t expect this to happen to you at this age, but here it does,nt matter. Yet 2 more senseless murders one of them father to be.


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    The Mayor will be concerned enough to get the police to find MOTIVE because of the effect to tourism in his area of responsibility...
    It wasn't a robbery,so we will have to wait and see what it is.
    These two guys had enemies..No doubt about it.


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    Worrying times!


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    Perhaps the gunman was an ex of one of the girls and the motive was jealousy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger31 View Post
    http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de...-de-oro-369444

    You don,t expect this to happen to you at this age, but here it does,nt matter. Yet 2 more senseless murders one of them a father to be
    True!

    But neither do you find many 67 yr~old expectant fathers ... so possibly ... ... the gunman was the jealous ex-husband of the 's girlfriend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    Perhaps the gunman was an ex of one of the girls and the motive was jealousy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    True!

    But neither do you find many 67 yr~old expectant fathers ... so possibly ... ... the gunman was the jealous ex-husband of the 's girlfriend.
    ... GREAT minds, Jamie!! Guess our respective posts must've crossed in transit!


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    There is this lawlessness about the Philippines I'm getting tired of. It stands out more than all the other SE Asian countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisincebu View Post
    There is this lawlessness about the Philippines I'm getting tired of. It stands out more than all the other SE Asian countries.
    , Chris ... unless ... ... of course, you take into account the recent unrest in Hong Kong!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    , Chris ... unless ... ... of course, you take into account the recent unrest in Hong Kong!
    Yeah, but is that genuine Arthur or orchestrated??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... GREAT minds, Jamie!! Guess our respective posts must've crossed in transit!


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    The Philippine TV news reports are saying the weapon used was fitted with a silencer.


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    That's in Mindanao anyway - which is off-limits for anyone who does their homework

    Some people even risk going to Zamboanga!


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    That's what the Government says! I will say it again, I have had no problems in Mindanao. Been there 9 times. Admittedly, I would not go to Zamboanga, but where I go I get no problems. Conduct yourself in the right manner and be respectful. It helps if you are there with a Filipino who knows the place and can guide you.


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    I think Camiguin, Siargao and Butuan are the safest places in Mindanao. Davao and CDO have had their problems, but anywhere south of Dipolog and west of Gen San and it's not advisable to venture.


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    That's really sad.


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    Yet another foreign murder same place 23 year old Swiss guy in Suriguo del Norte.

    Getting out of hand!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    I think Camiguin, Siargao and Butuan are the safest places in Mindanao. Davao and CDO have had their problems, but anywhere south of Dipolog and west of Gen San and it's not advisable to venture.
    nowhere is completely safe http://www.mindanews.com/top-stories...wiss-national/


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    That's in Mindanao anyway - which is off-limits for anyone who does their homework

    Some people even risk going to Zamboanga!
    Have you ever been to Mindanao? Like quite a few here who have been there many times - it's people who have never been there seem to give it a bad name.


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    Curiouser and curiouser:-

    Police looking for ‘John Lennon’

    The police here are looking for another foreigner who was a companion of the slain Swiss national whose body was found with a stab wound on his chest in a grassy village here Tuesday morning.

    But while the police are clueless about the foreigner who registered as a “John Lennon” at a hotel here when he checked in with stabbing victim Florian Mayer, the foreigner exchanged messages with this reporter via his Facebook account, saying they were robbed by armed men on a motorcycle.

    Police investigators have learned that Mayer, 22, was accompanied by “John Lennon” when they checked in at Jazz Apartelle in Barangay Togbongon here on Monday.

    They said John Lennon could be the key to solve the crime, noting that the two were always together.

    John Lennon, however, said he is worried to report to the police at this time, saying he could not trust them.

    This Caucasian, who is also a Swiss national, requested MindaNews not to reveal his name for now as he fears for his life and those of his family who are in Siargao Island.

    Lennon revealed that he and Mayer left Siargao on Monday for Surigao City to get money and buy several things for the preparation of a bar that they were going to set up in the island.

    He narrated that on Monday morning, they failed to wake up early so they reached Surigao around 2 to 3 p.m. Then they went to McDonald’s, then to the hotel.

    He admitted to just writing “John Lennon” at the hotel’s registration form, which he usually does every time he needs to register in some commercial establishments.

    From the hotel they went to CitiHardware, then Gaisano, to buy things needed for the bar.

    They went back to the hotel at 5 p.m., then to McDonald’s again for dinner, then back to the hotel.

    Past midnight, Mayer said they should go out for a drink. They walked to get a habalhabal (motorcycle) that would bring them to a bar. Then two guys on a motorbike stopped, and the passenger disembarked and pointed a gun at Mayer.

    The man with the gun demanded that Mayer hand him his money, but Mayer refused. “The robber pointed the gun on me, I told them I don’t have money and I ran away,” he said.

    He said that Mayer, who had P70,000 in cash with him, ran away, too.

    “I dropped to the ground, and after 20-30 minutes I stood up and I ran again,” Lennon said.

    He said he tried to look for Mayer, and even called him and sent a message on his phone, but got no answer.

    “Florian joined the army in Switzerland so I think maybe he can manage in the jungle,” John Lennon said.

    He was able to flag a habalhabal and went to McDonald’s and called her girlfriend in Siargao.

    But until the next day, he still did not get any response from Mayer. “I still keep on texting Florian but I got no response from him,” he added.

    He said he went back to Siargao with a French national.

    He said he already reported the incident to the Swiss Embassy.

    John Lennon reiterated not to put his name and picture in the news.

    “I am willing to say the truth but I don’t trust the police as some of them are corrupt. That’s why I don’t go to them for now,” he said.

    John Lennon did not disclosed his whereabouts, but said he would surface soon provided that he will get security, along with some media people.

    Apartelle attendants said “John Lennon” even failed to check out at the hotel.

    Mayer died from strangulation and a lone stab wound that pierced through his heart, according to the autopsy conducted by Dr. Alex Uy of the Philippine National Police’s (PNP) Regional Crime Laboratory.

    Chief Insp. Miraflor Tiu, of the Scene of the Crime Operatives (Soco), said Mayer also sustained laceration on his right leg and on his head, as well as bruises on his back.

    Robbery could not be ruled out yet even if Mayer’s jewelries – gold necklace and silver bracelet – and wallet containing several credit cards were still in his possession, Tiu said. Found in Mayer’s rented room were his personal belongings and a gray Eastpak backpack containing his personal things.

    Tiu said that Mayer may have already been dead when his body was dumped at the grassy area near a rice field.

    Mayer’s remains now lie in state at the Nilo Funeral Services in Kilometer 3, Barangay Luna.

    Meanwhile, police from General Luna town in Siargao said they are also looking for “John Lennon.”

    “If he is a witness to the crime then he should report to the police what had happened. It seems he is hiding now,” said Insp. Jonathan Meru, police station chief in General Luna.

    Meru said that John Lennon is considered a suspect now, “so he should come out to clear his name.”

    Police are asking those who have information about Mayer’s killing to contact them: Surigao del Norte PPO hotline, 0921-5114496; Surigao City Police Station, 0998-1787778; PO3 Cesar Johans C. Castillo, 0928-3146599, PRO 13 hotline, 342-1367 and 09084544548.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger31 View Post
    Yet another foreign murder same place 23 year old Swiss guy in Suriguo del Norte.

    Getting out of hand!
    Just read a post from someone that says he knows of him..
    The Swiss guy was always suing local business men etc.. He even tried to sue a judge after losing a case!!
    That's a dangerous game here.


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    Well there you go! Never step on people,s toes here as it doesn,t cost much to eradicate you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Just read a post from someone that says he knows of him..
    The Swiss guy was always suing local business men etc.. He even tried to sue a judge after losing a case!!
    Thats a dangerous game here.
    He did,nt do his research it seems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    Have you ever been to Mindanao? Like quite a few here who have been there many times - it's people who have never been there seem to give it a bad name.
    No, I have not been there and I follow the British Government's advice about not visiting Mindanao

    Travel insurance is void in Mindanao due to the British Government's advice

    Yes, maybe thousands from this forum have been there and encountered no problems at all

    I don't want to be the first person from this forum who gets kidnapped, shot or my legs blown off in one of the many random bomb attacks on that island.

    Muslim extremists are too active in Mindanao for my liking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    No, I have not been there and I follow the British Government's advice about not visiting Mindanao

    Travel insurance is void in Mindanao due to the British Government's advice

    Yes, maybe thousands from this forum have been there and encountered no problems at all

    I don't want to be the first person from this forum who gets kidnapped, shot or my legs blown off in one of the many random bomb attacks on that island

    Muslim extremists are too active in Mindanao for my liking
    The thing is, whether you have visited or not, the facts speak for themselves. I have been to C.D.O, seems a nice place but looks can be deceiving as we all know. At the end of the day, a white dude stands out like a sore thumb everywhere you go here. You just have to keep your wits about you and not be complacent. I used to think I was a short .... until I came here, but even I tower over the locals in the supermarkets. It,s quite weird, lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    No, I have not been there and I follow the British Government's advice about not visiting Mindanao

    Travel insurance is void in Mindanao due to the British Government's advice

    Yes, maybe thousands from this forum have been there and encountered no problems at all

    I don't want to be the first person from this forum who gets kidnapped, shot or my legs blown off in one of the many random bomb attacks on that island

    Muslim extremists are too active in Mindanao for my liking
    Were these incidents anything to do with Muslim extremists?

    Same things can happen anywhere in Phils or even UK - if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Just read a post from someone that says he knows of him..
    The Swiss guy was always suing local business men etc.. He even tried to sue a judge after losing a case!!
    That's a dangerous game here.
    Sounds like a spoilt rich kid used to getting his own way all the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishman12 View Post
    Were these incidents anything to do with Muslim extremists?

    Same things can happen anywhere in Phils or even UK - if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    http://www.mb.com.ph/how-safe-is-mindanao/
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Blown out of proportion by some panicking pen-pusher. I'd rather listen to people who know the area such as the members on here or on Philippine travel forums than some pleb in a government office.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    Blown out of proportion by some panicking pen-pusher. I'd rather listen to people who know the area such as the members on here or on Philippine travel forums than some pleb in a government office.
    I'm beginning to wonder now, after learning on this Forum about no go areas in this country because of Pakistanis!


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    I'm seriously considering the risks and recent happenings in Mindanao and also Manila.

    I may need to make some changes in my plans


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