Come on Basel

[Dedworth]

Just placed my wager for a home win @ 13/5 fairly confident as this is the outfit that beat the mighty CFC last year and turfed Totnum out of the Europa

[KeithD]

They are a good team, however the easiest way to make money on this match is to lay the draw, and then trade out for a guaranteed 30% profit after a goal.

[Dedworth]

They are a good team, however the easiest way to make money on this match is to lay the draw, and then trade out for a guaranteed 30% profit after a goal.

I'm a novice gambler in plain terms whats lay the draw ? I use WillHill is it bet on the draw (currently 11/5) then cash in when one team scores ?

[Ako Si Jamie]

You're betting it won't be a draw. So if either team wins, so do you.

[Dedworth]

I think you can only do that sort of bet on BetFair Jamie (not WillHill who I'm with) - but I stand to be corrected

[KeithD]

You use a betting exchange like Betfair, and place a lay bet on the draw. That means you are not expecting the match to finish as a draw. As soon as a goal is scored, the Draw odds move out, so you then back it so that each of the three results has the same profit. That way, whatever the result, you win. Using the free version of Betangel makes it easier. You have to pick games that will have a goal. 0-0 Means you lose money.

[KeithD]

You can technically do it with a bookie, as long as they are doing in-running betting. To lay the draw with the bookie, you back the other two results to lose the same amount. After a goal, you back the draw.

[Dedworth]

Great thanks I think I'll sign up with BetFair for the future

[KeithD]

It's £2 minimum bet on Betfair, but 50p on Betdaq

Best using the cheaper option while learning, and then switch to the big boy. Unless you're using the Betangel free bot, then you need to use Betfair.

[Ako Si Jamie]

I think you can only do that sort of bet on BetFair Jamie (not WillHill who I'm with) - but I stand to be corrected

I was just explaining what laying meant and, yes, you can only do it on the exchanges, although Keith explained how to 'lay' in a different way with the bookies. The exchanges charge a commission on a winning bet although the odds are usually better.

[Ako Si Jamie]

Great thanks I think I'll sign up with BetFair for the future

Bet £10, get £30 in free bets.

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[Dedworth]

Cheers Jamie! Stevie Mee booked so they might crumble now. I see the United reject has got a hat trick in N London

[les_taxi]

They crumbled. Rogers sounds like Moyes these days

As for Wellbeck, I'm glad for the lad never wanted him to go but we did need complete overhaul

[Dedworth]

I'm looking forward to watching yet another of those "great European nights from Anfield ” when Real decimate the Scousers

[KeithD]

They crumbled. Rogers sounds like VAN GHAAL these days

[les_taxi]

Even ray clemence thinks baloteli is a waste of space. He just wanders around the pitch sulking. Did not even applaud fans lol

[les_taxi]

Who was the guy who left the game the other day as he wasn't picked?

Liverpool have got too many players who care nothing about the club. Not the sort of players to roll their sleeves up.

[Dedworth]

I agree Les - Balotelli isn't wasting any time in establishing himself as a liability and waste of money

On a similar note Marouane Fellaini is fit & ready to play

[KeithD]

Who was the guy who left the game the other day as he wasn't picked?
Liverpool have got too many players who care nothing about the club. Not the sort of players to roll their sleeves up.

Sakho. The guy was useless last year, now he's just a complete

We all know Balotelli does that, it's not news. As long as he bangs in around 15 goals this season, he's worth the money. The problem is no one is getting the ball to him. Even Sterling needed a Specsavers appointment last night. Most of the new players don't seem to have a clue they are on the pitch..... a bit like Rooney