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19th August 2014 #1
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Home Office ordered to pay £224m to e-Borders firm
The Home Office has been told to pay £224m to a major US corporation it sacked for failing to deliver a controversial secure borders programme.
More here:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28840966
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19th August 2014 #2
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A disgrace - how many multi zillion pound IT projects have successive govts screwed up on? These companies are laughing all the way to the bank
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Totally agree Dedworth
Complete lack of understanding and control from from beginning to end.
Where are the penalties for schedule timing and compliance?
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19th August 2014 #6
But on this account the buck stops with Ded's mate Mrs May.
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19th August 2014 #8
Who ended the contract?
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19th August 2014 #9
Andy, and no doubt all the Labour cronies on here, miss the point that the contract was awarded to a US company. Talk about jobs for Blair's boys
The socialists on here are always moaning about how the Tories give contracts to foreign companies and this is proof that it happened under Labour as well.
I can't wait to see the denials that Labour were even in power in 2007.
Simple analogy, if your car costs more to fix than to replace you buy a new one
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19th August 2014 #10
Andy, the Tories' cronies on here cant get their 'facts' right, it wasn't awarded to an American company, it was awarded to a consortium led by Raytheon which included Serco (a British company), QinetiQ (a British company), Detica (a British company) Accenture and Capgemini.
As for jobs for Blair boys, tell me SimonH, as you know so much about this, what % of the work was carried out in the UK
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19th August 2014 #11
To save me wasting my time Joe, why don't you post a link to that info, there's a good chap
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19th August 2014 #12
Well you learnt something today
Not jobs for Blair's boys, but British boys
Ninety-five percent of the work will be carried out in the UK.
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19th August 2014 #13
Nice find Joe
This explains it in a bit more detail though
http://www.qinetiq.com/media/news/re...e-borders.aspx
Of course 95% of the work will be carried out over here, they were contracting for the UKBA
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19th August 2014 #15
From the link:-
Under the e-Borders programme, QinetiQ will be responsible for security accreditation and human factors. QinetiQ, the international defence and security technology company, is a specialist in designing customer-facing processes and secure systems that comply with UK Government requirements. For example, it has developed and runs Borderwatch, which detects stowaways in vehicles, for the Department for Transport.
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19th August 2014 #16
QinetiQ - recruitment agency?
Qinetiq is a British multinational defence technology company head-quartered in Farnborough
I don't think you're talking English more like Double Dutch
So what did Raytheon UK do? As 95% of the work was done in the UK
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Whether companies are British or not is a moot point - Andy is still trying to understand the current ownership of Rolls Royce Cars and Rolls Royce Aero Engines.
Am I correct in thinking Labour were in Govt in 2001 ? That's when another piece of family silver was sold off to their chums in the square mile......
.........................Qinetiq
Some of their other mates did rather nicely out of the deal :-
In November 2007, the NAO reported that taxpayers could have gained "tens of millions" more and was critical of the incentive scheme given to Qinetiq managers, the 10 most senior of whom gained £107.5m on an investment of £540,000 in the company's shares.
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19th August 2014 #18
10s of millions Dedworth, small fry to the £50bn Thatcher sold off to her chums
£100M+ earlier this year lost with the Royal Mail
Of course it matters if they are British, more likely most of the jobs will be based in the UK rather than elsewhere...
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19th August 2014 #20
i think writing and maintaining the S/W would account for more than 5% of the work , as it was claimed 95% of the work would be done in the UK.
but Raytheon had already done the border control S/W for the USA gov, so they had the experience to do it, maybe a factor why Blair picked them over BT.
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22nd August 2014 #22
She probably didn't read the small print of the contract and cost us thousands again.
Like the Abu Quatada case in which she was too late putting in the appeal. And you talk about haemorrhaging money. I might do some research on how much old bags under the eyes has cost us.
Oh, and thanks for answering my question Ded.
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22nd August 2014 #23
If it was the contractors fault, you would have thought there would be penalties in the contracts if they had fallen behind on the time scales , the gov blames them, and the contractors blame the gov
Yet a independent arbitration tribunal fines the gov, surely the gov's fault then
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