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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Halal meat.... Dead is dead. Regardless of how an animal dies for us to eat it, we are still killing it.

    Most of the meat in the Philippines is not killed humanely, as defined in the EU, most just bleed to death while awake.

    So any westerners worried about arrows and meat, should fly with another airline, and become a vegetarian while in the Phil to ensure that they have nothing to moan about.
    I don't mind how they kill the animal

    Halal meat is for Muslims so I want to eat non Halal meat

    Any Halal meat sold is the UK should state Clearly on the packaging that it is Halal

    Supermarkets think the public don't mind or care.

    I strongly disagree


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    What is the Muslim population of Philippines and how many use Philippine Airlines? Also have you ever thought that the airline is trying to pick up more business by encouraging more Muslims to fly with them by catering for their needs, just my thought!
    Maybe, but then the accusation of pandering to minorities is justified then


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    I have no interest in where mecca is, so why should I be reminded where it is every 5 minutes?

    I am sick of having any religions rammed down my throat and Airlines pandering to these religions makes it even worse
    Nothing to add.


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    Halal meat is for Muslims so i want to eat non Halal meat
    Meat is meat.

    Why do some people try to make a issue out of something that doesn't exist?

    It's like some people calling UKIP racist because they mention the word "immigration"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Meat is meat.

    Why do some people try to make a issue out of something that doesn't exist?

    It's like some people calling UKIP racist because they mention the word "immigration"!
    Good point!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    That would not be pleasant for the passengers as my daughter would probably use it as a dildo
    Only you could get away with that one, Driscoll--but then--it is your site lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Meat is meat.

    Why do some people try to make a issue out of something that doesn't exist?

    It's like some people calling UKIP racist because they mention the word "immigration"!
    I agree meat is meat , chicken is chicken and it has to be KFC
    ''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Meat is meat.

    Why do some people try to make a issue out of something that doesn't exist?

    It's like some people calling UKIP racist because they mention the word "immigration"!
    Try telling that to a muslim and see if they can eat non halal meat


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    Try telling that to a muslim and see if they can eat non halal meat
    Would they be able to tell the difference by taste alone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Would they be able to tell the difference by taste alone?
    Nope. And if they are not present during the kill, they have no idea the way it died. The same way we had no idea horse was in the food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Would they be able to tell the difference by taste alone?
    No, for me it's ridiculous any religion telling you what you can and cannot eat


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    I am flying with Philippine Airlines again in June and if I see that offending arrow informing me in which direction Mecca is I will summon the head of on-board services and inform them I want it removed


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    I am flying with Philippine Airlines again in June and if i see that offending arrow informing me in which direction Mecca is i will summon the head of on board services and inform them i want it removed

    Easily done, either change channel or switch it off


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    I am flying with Philippine Airlines again in June and if i see that offending arrow informing me in which direction Mecca is i will summon the head of on board services and inform them i want it removed
    It would be easier if they removed you at 36,000ft

    There are usually two map options on new planes these days. One does not have the arrow. That's the way it was on Qatar anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    It would be easier if they removed you at 36,000ft

    Their are usually two map options on new planes these days. One does not have the arrow. That's the way it was on Qatar anyway.

    Wouldn't be surprised if forums like these weren't monitored by airlines when their name crops up to get some feedback. Could be that some passengers might be refused boarding if the airline thought they were going to make a fuss during the flight


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if forums like these weren't monitored by airlines when their name crops up to get some feedback. Could be that some passengers might be refused boarding if the airline thought they were going to make a fuss during the flight
    I would think that Philippine Airlines customer service is a bit better than that

    Of course they will want to prove that they cater for non muslims also

    The customer is always right remember


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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post

    The customer is always right remember
    ....even when they are wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    I would think that Philippine Airlines customer service is a bit better than that
    Of course they will want to prove that they cater for non muslims also

    The customer is always right remember
    After all--the great majority of filipinos are Catholic---so why not an arrow pointing to the Vatican--as well--to be on the safe side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    After all--the great majority of filipinos are Catholic---so why not an arrow pointing to the Vatican--as well--to be on the safe side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    After all--the great majority of filipinos are Catholic---so why not an arrow pointing to the Vatican--as well--to be on the safe side.
    I could understand it and accept it if the Philippines was a majority muslim country but it's not


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    I have travelled with them about 5 times now on the long haul from Heathrow to Manila and I guess my only "observation" is that they are not very attentive during "dark hours" when people are sleeping and others like me who cant sleep on any moving form of transport aren't. Also when you press the "call a flight attendant" button, sometimes you can wait for a long time before they arrive.

    On Emirates, the flight crew regularly walk round with a tray of either water, apple or orange juice for those that are still awake...... it makes such a difference to your comfort


    OH!! I do have one rant!! Why do flight attendants insist on putting the pat of butter UNDER the hot meal??? Twice now in attempting to butter my roll I have had liquid butter pour onto my T shirt when I have been attempting to open it


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    I used Philippine Airlines as didn't want a stop over with kids.

    That's the only good thing the non stop. The rest was bad. Food was worst I have ever had on a plane. The plane was dirty - old food under seats - also smelly. 1 of my kids got a rash - we all were scatching from seats. No amenity kits, no kids meals. We ordered no drinks or snacks, the cabin crew were not that friendly towards us.

    I won't be using them again - only my return to UK. I would sooner have stop overs and fly with a good airline.

    Even Kuwait and Saudi are better than Phil Air.

    Next time I will go with Thai, Singapore, Malaysian or Etihad


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    Yuk....thanks for letting us know.

    Don't think I could bear sitting on a plane for more than 8 hours or so without a break anyway.


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    Booked with them for July. I usually go Cathay because I love their service but decided to give PAL a go just to see. Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered


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    I was looking at Singapore airlines flights last night...Manchester to Manila.

    Then I noticed they call at Munich before Singapore.

    No way will I ever in my life board a plane carrying a bunch of drunken ignorant Germans again.


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    I have a budget in my mind and I will not go above that but I will gladly go below it. Pus, I think like you Graham, I do need to get off after 8 hours


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    Quote Originally Posted by junior02 View Post
    I used Philippine Airlines as didn't want a stop over with kids.

    That's the only good thing the non stop. The rest was bad. Food was worst I have ever had on a plane. The plane was dirty - old food under seats - also smelly. 1 of my kids got a rash - we all were scatching from seats. No amenity kits, no kids meals. We ordered no drinks or snacks, the cabin crew were not that friendly towards us.

    I won't be using them again - only my return to UK. I would sooner have stop overs and fly with a good airline.

    Even Kuwait and Saudi are better than Phil Air.

    Next time I will go with Thai, Singapore, Malaysian or Etihad
    Sorry to read of your experience with PA, 5 x of us travelled over and back In April and everything was fine for us, good food, courteous staff, good in-flight entertainment only small complaint was the size of the seats....


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Booked with them for July. I usually go Cathay because I love their service but decided to give PAL a go just to see. Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered
    When are u flying in July? I fly last week of July.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longweekend View Post
    Sorry to read of your experience with PA, ... only small complaint was the size of the seats....
    Being tall, I need AMPLE legroom ... and so ... would be a BIG consideration for me, I'm afraid!


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    Same for me Arthur.

    What a difference it must make if you're 6 inches shorter.


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