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    Nearly neck and neck Conservative/Labour



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    thanks Les , Andy will be dusting his brown trousers down


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    Always with these polls, take a step back, look at trends, and look at past election results.

    Basically, 42% has been enough to lead in this country to stonking majorities. Notice UKIP is on 10%. Now who knows exactly who they take their support from, however most guess they hurt the Tories more than Labour. If less than half the UKIP support is former Tory, then they are denying the Tories a majority the president of a banana republic would be proud of.

    THEN AGAIN, exactly where is that 10% LibDem support? Put simply, if those 10% live in the wrong places - ie say London or the Midlands, then this will wipe out LibDem seats in the SW and North, quite possibly wiping out the party


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    I'm just happy that the public are moving away from labour.
    Restores my faith that people do take into account that we do not need to max out the countries credit card as labour would do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    a labour majority of 32
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Unluckily for you Labour fans it's dropped dramatically and will continue to do so


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Unluckily for you labour fans it's dropped dramatically and will continue to do so
    You mean like Man United

    UKIP will take votes from the Tories

    Whatever few% the Libs get will not help the Tories get a majority this time

    Tories have not been ahead of Labour in the polls for over 2yrs
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Of course they haven't as people don't like austerity measures, but now things are getting better, Labour's lead is shrinking fast.

    People know which party was on watch when we nearly went bust and now see things improving, hence the lead being eroded away.


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    back to normal les a 4 to 6 point lead for labour

    This morning’s YouGov/Sun poll has topline figures of CON 32%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13% – a six point lead for Labour (as was yesterday’s poll).

    ....

    Meanwhile the twice-weekly Populus poll has topline figures of CON 33%, LAB 37%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 13% – also very much business as usual.


    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/ar...ling+Report%29
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Of course they haven't as people don't like austerity measures, but now things are getting better
    A bit late for austerity IMO.. The gate`s open..The horse bolted.
    The UK national debt grows at a rate of £5,170 per second!

    1.35 Trillion Pounds and counting!!

    £ 21.704 debt per citizen
    £ 37.330 debt per taxpayer

    Mainstream media headlines today are focused on Britain's record national debt, which just surpassed £1 trillion, a figure that can only exponentially increase unless the entire mechanism of Government finance is overhauled. The truth however is much worse, factoring in all liabilities including state and public sector pensions, the real national debt is closer to £4.8 trillion, some £78,000 for every person in the UK.

    http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/


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    Japan is in more debt i think than any other country in the world these people have been predicting the collapse of the UK for years, are they the same people who predicted the housing market would collapse more than 10yrs ago
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Japan is in more debt i think than any other country in the world these people have been predicting the collapse of the UK for years, are they the same people who predicted the housing market would collapse more than 10yrs ago
    What people?

    Other people laugh at the countries debt and compare it to that of Japans as if thats a positive?
    Others laugh and say that everything is OK again because UK property is on the way up when its pretty obvious to any economist worth his salt that a property correction is well over dueand a normal and healthy thing!!
    They say these things without even asking the questions which are important.. Like why is the housing market recovering without a correction and why are prices going up when most ordinary working folk cant even get a mortgage!!

    Joe..Why do you think there hasn`t been a housing price correction in the last 3/4 years?


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    CON 33%, LAB 36%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 15%.
    Labour with a 3 point lead

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/ar...ling+Report%29
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    Back to normal Les, a 4 to 6 point lead for Labour
    Labour with a 3 point lead
    Good to see it decreasing again

    Wait till next year when a nice Budget appears


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Good to see it decreasing again

    Wait till next year when a nice Budget appears
    Increasing Les, last poll was Labour 1% ahead, now its 3%,
    Budget next year, Election next year probably too late

    and

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...neral-election
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Will be interesting but for a party in opposition its not a big enough lead at this stage and will decrease I feel as we head toward the Election next year.

    Labour won't get in on two things - terrible leader and no to referendum on Europe - political suicide.

    The people will demand it.

    Labour's smart move would be to elect new leader and for him to say he is in favour of a Europe vote - hopefully they will carry on with fingers in ears


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    This morning’s YouGov poll for the Sun has topline figures of CON 30%, LAB 36%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 17%.
    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/ar...ling+Report%29
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    Next year leading up to the Election will be interesting - the dust needs to settle - I don't know who will get in, can't see any party with an overall majority.

    I will take a Conservative/UKIP coalition


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    I voted UKIP in the European elections but will be back to Conservatives for the General Election, I couldn't stand another 5 years of Labour messing up the economy after its just getting back on track....


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    I'm just happy that the public are moving away from labour.
    Restores my faith that people do take into account that we do not need to max out the countries credit card as labour would do.
    Over 2 months ago Les, and Labour is back at 6 points, your predictions are not going well
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    over 2 months ago Les, and Labour is back at 6 points , your predictions are not going well
    This is exactly how I expected it, after the UKIP surge.

    Next year people will not want Labour back in to ruin the economy as Longweekend points out.


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    How did UKIP do ....in my absence ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    How did UKIP do ....in my absence ?
    Pretty much "swept the boards" Graham ... well ... ... slight exaggeration. But they put up a commendable performance by giving the two major parties a "run for their money".

    Although, had I known beforehand they're intent on privatising the NHS, I'd never have voted for UKIP. in the first place!


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    This is exactly how I expected it,after the UKIP surge.

    Next year people will not want Labour back in to ruin the economy as Longweekend points out.

    You said that after the Budget but Labour's lead has grown, I don't think the Tories have been in front of Labour for more than 2yrs now
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    No, it's unusual for a party in power to be in front - this is the party clearing up the mess remember

    Labour's lead will shrink the nearer we get to the Election


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    No, its unusual for a party in power to be in front - this is the party clearing up the mess remember

    Labour's lead will shrink the nearer we get to the Election
    You said that 2 months ago, they are still 6 points ahead, and UKIP will take votes away from the Cons in the marginal seats giving Labour a backdoor win
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Dream on Joe - UKIP will take votes away from Labour too

    Public are not that daft to let Labour back in

    See Tories held Newark - only challenge was from UKIP


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    Something else for you to ponder - Labour go against what the public want - A vote on Europe, it's political suicide

    The unions are moving further away from Labour.

    What Labour was built on 'power to the people' has long gone.

    The Labour Party is not what you once had it's a different animal more than ever.

    Noticed the Labour MP in Wales on QT floundered and nearly sank at times.

    Unless you have a U turn you have little chance next year.
    It's like me voting for Moyes to be in charge again - he ....ed it up last time - would not want him near the place now.


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    Labour will win next year. I bet Joe's life on it

    The Tories have forgotten that there are more 'poor' people than 'rich', and they have been screwing the former, while looking after their private school buddies.

    People say that Labour screwed up the economy, yet under the Tories the national debt has got much worse, and has been rising much quicker than under Labour. That means that the Tories have got no control over government spending.

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    It's undeniable who was in charge while the country sank - Labour

    Now it's improving under the coalition no brainer


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