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11th March 2014 #31
Having indulged in a few wise cracks earlier in this thread, I confess to feeling 'a little' ashamed now after reading more about the man himself. Seems - as borne out in Marco's post - he was a man of high moral principle, a man who had the courage of his convictions to stand up for what he believed in ... workers' rights ... steadfastly supporting his members through "thick 'n' thin" by consistently delivering them the promises he'd made.
And such qualities ( in my book, at least!) speak volumes.
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11th March 2014 #32
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From what I saw of him on the news reports tonight, he came across as nothing more than an overgrown school-yard bully. First impressions I have found in most cases throughout my life, have eventually turned out to have been correct.
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I don't know Bob Crow, and don't know that much about him, but from what I've read and heard today it's exactly as you intimate in your post Arthur. Well said.
He stood fast on his beliefs, and fought tooth and nail to get his union members the very best employment T&C's and safe working conditions. Maybe a he did a lot of things that weren't popular with everyone and maybe he did a lot of straight talking that didn't go down well with everyone.
Bit like us all really....
Additionally I know for a fact that he was significantly instrumental in getting railway business for UK to remain in UK. Plenty of governments of all colours seemed actively against that
He was a railway man and trade unionist through and through. Nothing wrong with that.
Without getting into an argument, could someone please enlighten me how Bob crow deserves such comments as 'rot in hell'.
Well presented post Arthur
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11th March 2014 #37
Bob was elected to represent his members interests, and he did that to the best of his abilities.
He fought for an improvement in their work conditions, protection of their pensions, and a decent working/living wage.
I wish a few more union chiefs would (and should have) done the same.
Then perhaps we wouldn't be in a position of zero hour contracts, limited employment rights, etc etc
Perhaps some of these professional politicians who supposedly represent the Labour party should take a hard look at themselves.... and understand what socialism really means.
RIP BobNo man is an island, but Barry is
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This thread has nothing to do with Margaret Thatcher.....
I'm just seeking reasons why folks have such extreme feelings about Bob Crow to make such terrible comments that's all.
It goes beyond reason IMO to hold such views solely on the basis of what he allegedly said about Thatcher.....
How did Bob Crow affect your life ?
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11th March 2014 #42
thats why i dont get involved, even in death some people still have to hate those they have never even meet, if you have not got anything good to say about anyone then the best bet is to keep it shut, no ofence meant to anyone alive or dead
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11th March 2014 #43
It wasn't allegedly!
I heard him on 5 live when they were having the strike on the tubes and a guy rang in and made Crow look a Pratt, he said ok you are happy to support the strike leaving loads of people buggered, but what am i to do about my business - (bar owner) - and the lack of trade due to the strike.
Crow was not concerned one iota that his validation of the strike affected anyone else or their livelihood, meanwhile his lavish wage and lifestyle really made him a man of the people
Fooled many people.
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11th March 2014 #45
I would not have had a go if he had not shamefully said what he did about Margaret Thatcher. He could not care less that love or hate her, her family don't need to read what he said.
Well, ironically he's gone so soon after his disgusting remarks.
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No matter what one thought of Bob Crow, the fact is that death from natural causes – apparently a “ heart attack “ - at the age of 52 is premature by any definition, and a tragedy for family, loved ones, and friends.
One person dies every few minutes in the UK from coronary heart disease. Most such deaths are caused by a heart attack ( where part of the heart muscle dies due to blockage of the artery supplying it ) - at age 65 or over.
It’s likely there would be a Coroner post-mortem in Bob Crow's case, whether or not he was known to have heart disease during life. The pathologist would try to rule out other causes, such as those which might have been present from birth or a genetic abnormality which might affect family members.
This premature death has attracted more attention on the Forum than “ Your health … your choices “ ( Health Issues ). Risk factors for heart attacks either can’t be modified ( age, family history, personality type ), or can ( smoking, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, exercise level, stress ).
At the very least, members - and his own family - may question why it happened, and whether it could have been avoided. * PLEASE take this chance to think about it !
R.I.P. Bob Crow.
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11th March 2014 #48
Irrelevant - she died in the Ritz, she had a well paid job for years as Prime Minister
You can say that about anyone who is not on the breadline.
He said rot in hell well, disgusting by any standards -scum
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12th March 2014 #56
Really! When you say "actually" do you know that for a fact or are you guessing?
http://www.salarytrack.co.uk/average-director-salary
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You were going well LM until you said that You must admit, he was on a good screw
I'll even admit, from what I've read about him, not knowing him personally Bob Crow worked wonders but, he made the mistake to rubbish and insult the dead and their family........That in my book is a no no
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