Malaysian Airlines MH370 Flight Incident

[raynaputi]

I do hope whatever it is that they've seen would be a big impact on this investigation now.

[fred]

Personally, it looks doubtful that those satellite images show remnants of the plane..

Most probably a dropped shipping container..

I HOPE I`,m right and the air liner was kidnapped.. Its about the only hope left for the families to see their loved ones again.

[bigmarco]

This explanation seems sensible to me:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

I must confess that having read this yesterday it seems to make sense to me but surely the experts would be thinking along these lines before examining the more sinister scenarios

[Terpe]

I must confess that having read this yesterday it seems to make sense to me ......

Agreed. It's the most plausible explanation I've read and certainly seems to fit whats known.

......but surely the experts would be thinking along these lines before examining the more sinister scenarios

Yes.....oddly enough most of the 'experts' interviewed who have been commercial pilots seem to agree it was mechanical/electrical failure........of those who have experienced critical issues (even crashes) suggest electrical......
I'm sure all scenarios do get fully investigated.

Haven't heard anyone else discuss fire so far though......Good piece that Jamesey, well found.

[irishman12]

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/fli...214243094.html

Families of passengers on the Boeing (NYSE: BA - news) 777 have received hardship payments and the airline has been paid for the plane

Malaysian Airlines has already been handed $110 million (£67 million) by insurers over the loss of its missing Boeing 777 on flight MH370 that is the subject of an international search after disappearing more than two weeks ago.

[Jentobeharrison]

Malaysia Airlines MH370 ended its fate in the southern part of Indian Ocean. Prime minister of Malaysia already confirmed to the relatives of the passengers and crew that no one has survived :(

[Jamesey]

It's very sad news. But at least a British hi-tech company was able to contribute so much.

I find the technical aspects of this fascinating:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sis?CMP=twt_fd

[gWaPito]

I think the final story will be much more straightforward, and that some people know what happened but don't want to say right now. It is now either at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, to be found one day, or if it has been 'hijacked' the spooks will know where it is.

So right Trefor.

[marksroomspain]

Not what I hoped for but at least some answers to the families who must have been in despair...

[Terpe]

Satellite 'pings' revealed missing Malaysia plane's path


The Inmarsat Global HQ in London.

The satellite operator Inmarsat said Monday, March 24, it managed to work out which direction the missing Malaysia Airlines plane flew in by measuring the Doppler effect of hourly 'pings' from the aircraft.

Malaysia's prime minister announced earlier that the Inmarsat analysis of flight MH370's path placed its last position in remote waters off Australia's west coast, meaning it can only have run out of fuel above the southern Indian Ocean. (READ: MH370 ended at the southern Indian Ocean)

Inmarsat explained how they plotted models of the flight's route by measuring the Doppler effect of satellite pings, giving corridors arcing north and south along which the plane could have flown for at least five hours.

Despite the plane's communication systems being switched off, satellite pings were still bouncing back from the aircraft, which which vanished on March 8 with 239 people on board while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The pings are sent from a ground station to a satellite, then onto the plane, which automatically sends a ping back to the satellite and down to the ground station.

They do not include global positioning system (GPS) data, time or distance information.

So the British satellite operator measured the amount of time it took for the pings to be returned.

"We looked at the Doppler effect, which is the change in frequency due to the movement of a satellite in its orbit," Chris McLaughlin, Inmarsat's senior vice president of external affairs, told Britain's Sky News television.

"What that then gave us was a predicted path for the northerly route and a predicted path the southerly route."

"We don't know whether the plane stayed at a constant speed; we don't know whether its headings changed subsequently," he explained.

Therefore, "we applied the autopilot speeds -- about 350 knots. We applied what we knew about the fuel and range of the aircraft to hit the series of ping information we had.

"Normally you'd want to triangulate, often you'd have GPS. But because aircraft in that region are not mandated to send out signals of their location we were working from blind, so this is very much a unique approach -- the first time it's been done."

Ran out of fuel

They then compared those figures to data from other Malaysia Airlines planes and similar flight routes, which definitively showed the plane could only have been going down the southern corridor, and would eventually have run out of fuel.

They established an "extraordinary matching" between Inmarsat's predicted southern path and readings from other planes on such routes.

The BBC reported that as far as could could be worked out, the plane was flying at a cruising height, above 30,000 feet (9,100 meters). They found no evidence of fluctuating heights.

Inmarsat handed over new information to Britain's Air Accidents Investigation Branch on Sunday for checking.

"By yesterday they were able to definitively say that the plane had undoubtedly taken the southern route," said McLaughlin.

He called for all commercial aircraft to be fitted with existing technology that would mean a plane cannot go missing.

Source:-
http://www.rappler.com/world/regions...sia-plane-path

[fred]

A plane that size crashing into the Ocean would have made a nasty mess with thousands of bits of Debris, not all sinking!!

After 18 days, why hasn't a single bit been found or washed up by now and with so many searching?

Still doesn't make sense IMO.

[les_taxi]

The whole thing is tragic and has gone on too long, what I don't understand is the Chinese kicking off against the Malaysian authorities

No one knew where the plane had gone - how can you tell them stuff you don't know?

[Terpe]

The whole thing is tragic and has gone on too long,what I don't understand is the Chinese kicking off against the Malaysian authorities
No one knew where the plane had gone-how can you tell them stuff you don't know?

Bereavement plays havoc with emotions and easily causes feelings of anger.
I'm sure it's just a bereavement reaction at the Malaysian Authorities as it was their flight and they've been the organising/co-ordinating group.
Very difficult situation.

One of issues has been down to media leaks that information has not been acted on or shared........we'll probably never know.....

I read somewhere that Inmarsat gave data a long time ago without any response so involved British Intelligence who involved US Intelligence and so on......chinese whispers (no pun intended)

It's a very sad and tragic story unfolding

[les_taxi]

Yes Terpe I'm sure you are right.

[RickyR]

The entire circumstances remain bizarre, far too many conflicting variables to make any sense of it all. I read that it would have cost just one dollar a day per aircraft for full Inmarsat tracking (GPS course and position reports rather then an empty ping), but the bean counters ruled it out. The maritime industry introduced mandatory tracking via Inmarsat several years ago.

[KeithD]

A plane that size crashing into the Ocean would have made a nasty mess with thousands of bits of Debris,not all sinking!!

After 18 days,why hasn't a single bit been found or washed up by now and with so many searching?

Still doesn't make sense IMO.

+99% will sink, especially if it didn't hit the water hard. Even without fuel, the autopilot would try and keep it level.

The plane was turned twice, probably on autopilot. As no one used mobiles while over, or alongside Malaysia, the passengers were either dead, unconscious, or unaware of a problem.

[joebloggs]

or unaware of a problem.

I think it was a 6hr flight, but people must have been wondering what was wrong when they hadn't landed, unless they were already dead or there was no mobile signal

The last ping was nearly 7 1/2hrs after they had taken off

[fred]

Malaysia Airlines Flight Spotted In Maldives? Examining The Latest Theory On MH370


Update 8.30am ET: The Maldivian government issued a statement saying that the country's military and airport radars had not seen the flight. However, it should be noted that a large airplane, by flying at low level, could easily escape detection by radar.

According to a local newspaper, residents of a remote island in the Maldives, Kuda Huvadhoo, spotted a planeat 6:15 a.m. local time on March 8 that could have been the missing Malaysia Airlines 370. Eyewitnesses cited by the paper said they saw "a jumbo jet," white with red stripes across it, flying low and very loudly. The description of a big airplane in those colors is consistent with the Malaysian Boeing 777.
The islanders said they did not recall ever seeing an airplane there, and at that height, before, making it unlikely that what they had seen was a normal takeoff or landing by another passenger jet.
The time of the sighting also matches what we can deduct about the plane's range and its known whereabouts.

http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airl...-mh370-1562221

US Military airbase Diego garcia didnt see anything then?

[RickyR]

To be honest I think this has been a big embarrassment for several major countries national security.
Countries like the USA have shown that despite their propaganda and popular belief they actually aren't anywhere as advanced in worldwide monitoring as they like people to believe. The satellite imagery has been appalling quality.
The tens of millions of dollars being poured into the search are not about the people onboard, it's about national security and finding out how in the modern day such a large aircraft could seemingly disappear. No need for billion dollar stealth aircraft....
The US, China and Australia are very embarrassed and very worried.

[KeithD]

The satellite imagery has been appalling quality.

We've only been shown commercial satellite pictures, or degraded military ones. The US satellites can read a number plate, but no country would publish satellite pictures of that quality, even though the countries they are trying to hide the information from know what they have, that is why we have spies.

It is easy to lose a plane over the oceans, not so over land, although it is still possible. Lots of drug planes fly into the US on a regular basis unnoticed, Richard Bransons mate crashed in Nevada, and it took over 6 months to find the crash site. We are talking about huge areas, and you can't monitor all of it.

[joebloggs]

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Chinese ship discovers pulse signal in south Indian Ocean

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...n-9240706.html

[Terpe]

I'm sure I heard on the news that this has been noticed twice in two days........sounds very very promising.

[marksroomspain]

Lets hope the families of these poor souls finally have some closure to all of this...

[KeithD]

Now the airline changed course a few times, and flew around Indonesia!

[joebloggs]

MH370 search: Co-pilot made call after plane went off flight path, reports

the mystery deepens

A pilot of the missing Malaysian airliner made a call on his mobile telephone after it had turned back from its scheduled flight path and was flying low near the island of Penang, according to a Malaysian government controlled newspaper.

The call on the telephone of first officer Fariq Abdul Hamid ended abruptly after contact was established with a communications tower, the New Straits Times reported Saturday.

The newspaper quoted sources as saying the telecommunications tower “established: the call 27 year-old Mr Fariq was trying to make."

read more here .. http://www.theage.com.au/world/mh370...412-zqu2q.html

[Michael Parnham]

Mmmmmm!

[KeithD]

Maybe he was trying to 'phone home' after the aliens took over the plane!

[joebloggs]

the russians said last week the plane landed in Afghanistan

[fred]

the russians said last week the plane landed in Afghanistan

A Russian newspaper has claimed that Flight MH370 was hijacked by "unknown terrorists" and flown to Afghanistan, where the crew and passengers are now being held hostage.
The extraordinary comments, attributed to a Russian intelligence source, appeared in the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper.
The source told the paper: "Flight MH370 Malaysia Airlines missing on March 8 with 239 passengers was hijacked.
"Pilots are not guilty; the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists.
"We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is "Hitch."
"The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border with Pakistan."


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[Dedworth]

A Russian newspaper has claimed that Flight MH370 was hijacked by "unknown terrorists" and flown to Afghanistan, where the crew and passengers are now being held hostage.
The extraordinary comments, attributed to a Russian intelligence source, appeared in the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper.
The source told the paper: "Flight MH370 Malaysia Airlines missing on March 8 with 239 passengers was hijacked.
"Pilots are not guilty; the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists.
"We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is "Hitch."
"The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border with Pakistan."


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Surprising it hasn't been spotted by satellites and drones