Suspect my wife is engaged in scamming activities

[blackcat22]

....Not towards me but with other men to support her parents ambitious housing project (But I still feel for the scammed victims)

Ok, so here is background info. My wife recently got her spouse VISA to UK approved in August 2013 but bcoz at the time of the approval she is nearly 9 months pregnant and cannot travel immediately as no airline will take her at that late stage of pregnancy. So we had to wait until she gave birth in the Philippines. Even after giving birth I cannot go and get her and the baby immediately as she had CS section with wound still healing and will also require about 2 months off work for me to go there and arrange the baby passport. So bcoz of this I decided to delay bringing them to UK until May 2014 bcoz this period is when my work contract will expire and I'll be free to travel away however long I want.

Now my wife is not someone that likes material things, she is quite happy with cheap stuff and in a way have the mindset of a child even though she is 28yrs old. Even at that age of 28yrs she rely on her parents to do everything for her. No she is not disabled at all. She is very obedient to her parents and I think in a way her parents using this obedience to manipulate her. I once tried to give her some support money before we married and she told me she not need it that she will simply give it to her parents. Even if you will pass it to your parents at least keep 2k for yourself, I said. So you can see her mindset from the start. I just got back from phils 3 weeks ago and I decided to treat my wife to some clothes shopping, she simply said no need to shopping for her bcoz she already have many clothes. Again you can see this from her mindset. She is not looking for material gain for herself. So you can imagine my surprise when I discovered some information that implicate my wife in scamming activities against other men.

On Dec 18th 2013 Some random person(woman) using a fake facebook account sent me a msg on facebook begging me to add her as friends so they can tell me what my wife is doing while I'm away from phils. I didn't see this msg immediately as it went into facebook private msg spam folder.

But few days ago my wife said she wanted to tell me something in case some foreign guy sent me pics of him posing with her parents. this pics was taken when we briefly broke up in 2010 and she invited this guy to visit her she said. So I said ok no problem if in fact it is true that the event occurred back in 2010 and not after we are already married. I asked where the guy from, she replied Australia.

My wife then said the Australian guy recently threatened to kidnap her and our child if my wife will not go back to him.

so now I tried to find more info about this Australian guy, So my wife sent me a screenshot of the Australian guy posing with another woman in facebook. From the name my wife gave of the Austraian guy I can't find him in facebook search so I tried to contact the woman he was posing with in the pic but so far no luck.

Now I received a msg from the fake facebook user earlier telling me that my wife is a bad person and everything he did to kevin(The austraian guy) and other men is wrong. She said kevin(australian guy) told her everything and kevin is taking my wife to court in February 2014.

Now, why would kevin(australian guy) take my wife to court unless he felt cheated or lost money in the process of whatever brief encounter he had with my wife?

Even my wife confirmed that the Australian guy threaten to block her passport so she will not be able to leave the country.

So now you can see the complicated situation I find myself. The kevin guy after realizing he was pouring money down the drain and going no where with it finally snapped and decided enough is enough and is now taking my wife to court possibly to recover all the money scammed from him by my wife.

I must also let you know that my wife parents are building their own brand new house and I have only deliberately helped them with very tiny fractions of what it will cost toward the completion of the house. So now i'm thinking maybe her parent have engaged my wife in scamming activities towards other men to make up the rest of the cost of their new house and that is where this kevin(Australian guy) and possibly other men come into the picture.

For instance I know for a fact that, few weeks ago when I visited my wife's parent new house, completion level is advance and her dad showed me drilling on a deep well which cost 80k in the front yard. I remembered saying to myself back then "how the hell did he managed to afford 80k for this deep well?" So it is likely it was kevin(the Australian guy) and possibly other men(scam victims) are the one financing my wife's parents housing project.

Now with this new revelations from the anonymous facebook tipster everything is now becoming clear.

Bearing in mind that 99.9% of scamming victims will just shrug their shoulder and move on once they realized they have been scammed. But I think with this kevin guy my wife came across the 0.1% that will seek justice and will not take it lying down. Hence why he is taking my wife to court in February and seeking judge injunction to block my wife passport until case is heard so my wife cannot travel abroad.

Also 2 days ago On computer screenshot pic of the Australian guy my wife sent me I saw on the browser tab that she opened page to a dating site on her laptop. (she probably forgot to close that dating page before sending me the screenshot). I then searched for her profile on that dating site with her age range and broad location search but did not see her profile so it's like she is not using her real pics on that dating site. This is another evidence to prove that she is still actively engaged in scamming. Her parent's house is not yet completed and some poor old scamming victim is the one going to foot the bill so she thinking.

I'm 100% confident that my wife's parent are the ones manipulating her to scam other men to give them the money to finance their ambitious housing project. Now it's all blowing up in their faces and unfortunately I'm caught in the middle.

I'm still trying to find out the fact if this kevin Australian guy came into the picture in 2010 before I married my wife or after we married. it seems odd the kevin guy is taking court action in Feb 2014 if while the events occurred back in 2010.

What do you guy advise? shall I go and get my wife now and leave the baby with her parents for later before this Australian guy seek judge injunction to block her passport? Bearing in mind our daughter is only 3 months old however for obvious reason my wife cannot breast feed her anyway so that's not an issue.

[tiger31]

are you sure your wife is not participating in the scam against her will ,because if I could prove that I would leave her and the baby behind just my opinion .This is,nt going to end very well and might cost you a good bit of money to sort out .You need to understand one thing they the family will only tell you what you want to hear ,which in lots of similar cases is far from it .I can,t believe you have had this problem so early on in your marriage .

[SimonH]

I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time

[tiger31]

I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time

thats a strange thing to say simon why would anyone put this information on here if it was someone else what could be the gain in this.

[grahamw48]

A sad tale, and not unusual.

I wish this Kevin guy the best of luck if he thinks he can successfully pursue a Filipino through the Philippines courts (at enormous cost of course).
He sounds pretty naive all round.

This is what can happen when men have their in one hand and their wallet in the other.

Good luck OP. I can't really give advice, as this is such a 'personal' situation, in which your own judgment needs to be used.

[SimonH]

thats a strange thing to say simon why would anyone put this information on here if it was someone else what could be the gain in this.

Tiger, I'm not sure what the game plan (if there even is one) is, which is why I said apologies if I'm wrong to start with. It just seems a poorly grammatically constructed tale of woe by comparison to other posts that blackcat22 has posted. Lack of punctuation etc, as I said probably just me and my sceptical nature

[tiger31]

Tiger, I'm not sure what the game plan (if there even is one) is, which is why I said apologies if I'm wrong to start with. It just seems a poorly grammatically constructed tale of woe by comparison to other posts that blackcat22 has posted. Lack of punctuation etc, as I said probably just me and my sceptical nature

yes I think thats it lol my grammer is pitiful too english was,nt my favorite subject at school I don,t really care about the grammer as long as I get my point across thats good enough for me

[joebloggs]

I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time

you may be right, the posters IP address is coming from Hungary, unless he's in Hungary or they are using a proxy.

[Trefor]

Lets assume this is real, I see two options:

- Find Kevin and get the real story. He is probably venting on a similar forum in Australia. He may not be using his real name of course and you could run into the same scammer who is creating this 'situation'.
- Ask your wife about it, maybe start by asking about where the money came from for the house before going too far.

[sars_notd_virus]

Suspect my wife is engaged in scamming activities ....Not towards me but with other men to support her parents ambitious housing project (But I still feel for the scammed victims)

shall I go and get my wife now and leave the baby with her parents for later before this Australian guy seek judge injunction to block her passport?

The first and last paragraph is contradictory...so do you actually feel for the scammed victims and help your wife escape with the mess by bringing her here in the UK??

I do not believe your wife is manipulated by her parents , she's an expert and you got evidence she is still on a dating site by sending screenshots with browser tabs links to a dating site.

What do you guy advise?

blackcat if it feels wrong believe me 98% of the time it is.
hope you made the right decision, good luck and take care.

[mickcant]

If this is really the case, his wife will not tell him the truth if she is involved, her parents will always be 1st in her life!
Men & women, British or Filipino can lie through their teeth if they feel it's necessary, I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies!

Mick.

[Ako Si Jamie]

If she comes to the U.K the parents won't have an income from the scamming due to her leaving, which could lead to you being the primary source of their dishonesty.

Would she steal or be dishonest towards you if her parents told her to?

[Michael Parnham]

Interesting, tread very carefully Blackcat!

[bigmac]

I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies

how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

[tiger31]

I consider myself a truthful person, and have over time found both my British and Filipina ex wifes lied, I found their stories changed over time, you need a good memory to tell lies

how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

aw man spill the beans don,t leave us hanging on the edge lol this forum is like coronation street lol

[fred]

Dont ever cross a black cat.
Its bad luck!

[tiger31]

Dont ever cross a black cat.
Its bad luck!

well if shes a scammer it is sure as hell bad luck being married to one .but also strange no more replies from the cat

[Ako Si Jamie]

I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

[bigmarco]

I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

I agree first plane out there and get things sorted face to face.

[Michael Parnham]

I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

Well said Jamie, I would do the same!

[andy222]

Sad to hear about your story. The first question I would ask myself is. Is it my kid she is carrying?. Secondly I would think to myself. Is it safe to go over there?. I really hope you get this sorted but I cant offer any advice sorry.

[gWaPito]

I may be wrong here, and apologies in advance if I am, but I think by the lack of grammar compared to other posts of yours then this is not blackcat22, but rather someone else who has access to his account. We are the ones who are potentially going to try and be scammed.
Anyone else want to look and other well constructed posts by blackcat22 and compare them to this one
As I said initially, I may be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time

Hi Simon..That was well spotted...that's worth a rep

I feel for you Blackcat...this happened with my first filipina wife from Davao..they forced her here thus taking my business which, to this day, is making a tidy sum of money.

I can't see how the Oz is going to get his money back

I couldnt say cut them lose becoz your baby is involved..otherwise I'd say dump them now

Either way Blackcat, your lady hasnt been truthful with you..so so sorry mate, I know the pain you are going through right now

[gWaPito]

I agree first plane out there and get things sorted face to face.

If only for the sake of his baby, his flesh and blood

[gWaPito]

I couldn't elaborate earlier as I was in a rush.

If that was me, I'd be over on the first plane to have it out with the wife and parents and I'd be more concerned whether she was intimate with this Kevin or any other man, than a court case.

At the end of the day she's your wife and dating other men whether under the instructions of her parents or not, is unforgivable in my book.

These provincial types carry never ending debt..they feel they owe becoz they were helped when they were in the dirt
It doesnt stop

[gWaPito]

If she comes to the U.K the parents won't have an income from the scamming due to her leaving, which could lead to you being the primary source of their dishonesty.

Would she steal or be dishonest towards you if her parents told her to?

My first piny wife did..........if it's going on there, you can bet your bottom dollar it will continue here

[gWaPito]

aw man spill the beans don,t leave us hanging on the edge lol this forum is like coronation street lol

I've been told it's better than watching corrie

[gWaPito]

Lets assume this is real, I see two options:

- Find Kevin and get the real story. He is probably venting on a similar forum in Australia. He may not be using his real name of course and you could run into the same scammer who is creating this 'situation'.
- Ask your wife about it, maybe start by asking about where the money came from for the house before going too far.

He could be using the names Fred or Joe

[gWaPito]

how very true Mick---my last wife--british---was the most successful liar. she totally deceived and conned me---over a period of a year. she married me under false pretenses. it took a year after we married for the truth to unfold.

ive divorced her now--paid her off. shes already tucked up with the next sucker. the thing is---i STILL dont know the full extent of her lies---so now i assume everything she ever told me is false.

My first wife (British) of 27 years was brilliant with looking after the money..it was a shame she had trouble with her knicker elastic otherwise I'd still be with her in our £300,000 house bought and paid for Instead i took up with a couple of conniving scrubbers....I must do better next time

[tiger31]

Hi Simon..That was well spotted...that's worth a rep

I feel for you Blackcat...this happened with my first filipina wife from Davao..they forced her here thus taking my business which, to this day, is making a tidy sum of money.

I can't see how the Oz is going to get his money back

I couldnt say cut them lose becoz your baby is involved..otherwise I'd say dump them now

Either way Blackcat, your lady hasnt been truthful with you..so so sorry mate, I know the pain you are going through right now

what business was that mark ?

[London_Manila]

I thought scamming was considered as normal behavior in the Phills