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    What a pair of stupid girls

    Peru drug arrests: Michaella McCollum denies wrongdoing


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    Sheriel from Leyte

    We agree Stupid


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    It's so easy for youngsters to wander the world now, but that doesn't mean they have the maturity or common sense to cope with the dangers and pitfalls when doing so.


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    I suspect they are guilty trying to make a quick buck - lucky they weren't in Sing or Malaysia


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    they say they were 'forced to carry the bags', yet they didn't know they were carrying drugs , why not flush the stuff down the toilet before they checked in.

    i find it hard to believe they didn't know the consequences of their actions with recent cases of British and others being caught trying to smuggle drugs thru airports.
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    just seen them laughing and joking eating cakes on video in peru ,they won,t be laughing when they get 25 years in jail thats for sure


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    Feeble excuses "AT GUNPOINT"

    They could have approached security at the airport before boarding the flight and told them the full story

    Drug Mules are dumb and these girls think that anyone is going to believe this story

    If it had been 2 middle aged guys we probably would never even heard about it.......


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    your caught it a foreign country trying to smuggle drugs, and of course they always claim they didn't know and was forced to , does anyone ever admit to it
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    That's another episode of Banged Up Abroad to look forward to then.


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    Were they so greedy that they did not want to just take advantage of us generouse Men to get money

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger31 View Post
    just seen them laughing and joking eating cakes on video in peru ,they won,t be laughing when they get 25 years in jail thats for sure

    Here you go Tiger :-

    Piece of cake: British teens seen laughing and eating donuts in jail . . . just days after being arrested with £1.5million of cocaine they now claim 'gangsters forced them to smuggle on pain of death'

    Michaella McCollum Connolly, 20, and Melissa Reid, 19, arrested last week
    The girls from Northern Ireland and Scotland were 'caught' at Lima airport
    Reid 'was forced to fly there with Connolly after being kidnapped in Spain'
    Pair spent their seventh night behind bars last night after being arrested
    Reid: 'We weren't smuggling for money, we were smuggling for our lives'


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2bvgU7iMg



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Reid 'was forced to fly there with Connolly after being kidnapped in Spain'
    so how did they get to Peru in the back of a lorry ?
    they must have flown there by plane, were they at gunpoint from being 'kidnapped' til they arrived in Peru
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    My daughters not long returned from Ibiza where she said drugs are everywhere. She said they even had someone knocking on their door one night offering drugs for sale.
    These 2 silly girls would appear to have gone on an errand for a dealer and got caught. My advice to them is to sit down with someone and start talking because they need to start naming names, otherwise it could be a long time before they see home again


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    They knew what they were doing and now they will have to pay the price, I've no sympathy for them at all. Notice, they are very brazen!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    They knew what they were doing and now they will have to pay the price, I've no sympathy for them at all. Notice, they are very brazen!
    Wouldn't be so smug if they were facing the noose


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    As an ex detective I tend to ‘take with a bit of salt’ explanations which amount to, ‘ I did not know ……..’ etc. However, before we all say they will get what they deserve: From the bits and pieces of news, I gather they were threatened in Peru, at one point with a gun to the head which may have been cocked, told their families would be harmed, (apparently the gang had information about their families) and were followed into the airport, and would have been followed on the flight, by members of the drugs gang.

    If that were true, then they may not have been able to seek help as soon as they got to the airport, if they believed they were being followed, and I can’t believe any drugs gang would let such a quantity of drug leave their sight.

    So the main question I would like to ask is, “How did they come to travel to Peru ? “ I think that explanation will give weight to whether they they were willing accomplices or victims.

    For me the ‘jury is still out’.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    As an ex detective I tend to ‘take with a bit of salt’ explanations which amount to, ‘ I did not know ……..’ etc. However, before we all say they will get what they deserve: From the bits and pieces of news, I gather they were threatened in Peru, at one point with a gun to the head which may have been cocked, told their families would be harmed, (apparently the gang had information about their families) and were followed into the airport, and would have been followed on the flight, by members of the drugs gang.

    If that were true, then they may not have been able to seek help as soon as they got to the airport, if they believed they were being followed, and I can’t believe any drugs gang would let such a quantity of drug leave their sight.

    So the main question I would like to ask is, “How did they come to travel to Peru ? “ I think that explanation will give weight to whether they they were willing accomplices or victims.

    For me the ‘jury is still out’.
    Interesting comment John!


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    I wouldn't be surprised if these gangs operate in holiday places like Ibiza with the intent on recruiting naive teenagers as mules. I bet they didn't have to wait long too.


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    no pity at all for them both


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    As an ex detective I tend to ‘take with a bit of salt’ explanations which amount to, ‘ I did not know ……..’ etc. However, before we all say they will get what they deserve: From the bits and pieces of news, I gather they were threatened in Peru, at one point with a gun to the head which may have been cocked, told their families would be harmed, (apparently the gang had information about their families) and were followed into the airport, and would have been followed on the flight, by members of the drugs gang.

    If that were true, then they may not have been able to seek help as soon as they got to the airport, if they believed they were being followed, and I can’t believe any drugs gang would let such a quantity of drug leave their sight.

    So the main question I would like to ask is, “How did they come to travel to Peru ? “ I think that explanation will give weight to whether they they were willing accomplices or victims.

    For me the ‘jury is still out’.
    The newspapers here seem to have fallen for their story as well so far

    I put to you that this story was concocted well before they even set foot Peru

    I am sure that gang members were not roaming around the airport with guns also

    Drug mules normally point the finger at anyone apart from themselves

    These 2 dimwits were having a great time in Ibiza until the money run out but their chosen
    new career path proved to be not as fruitful as they first thought


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    As an ex detective I tend to ‘take with a bit of salt’ explanations which amount to, ‘ I did not know ……..’ etc. However, before we all say they will get what they deserve: From the bits and pieces of news, I gather they were threatened in Peru, at one point with a gun to the head which may have been cocked, told their families would be harmed, (apparently the gang had information about their families) and were followed into the airport, and would have been followed on the flight, by members of the drugs gang.

    If that were true, then they may not have been able to seek help as soon as they got to the airport, if they believed they were being followed, and I can’t believe any drugs gang would let such a quantity of drug leave their sight.

    So the main question I would like to ask is, “How did they come to travel to Peru ? “ I think that explanation will give weight to whether they they were willing accomplices or victims.

    For me the ‘jury is still out’.
    if any of the gang were on the flight with them, then it would be pretty easy to find out who they were, unless they were traveling on fake passports, also airports are full of CCTV, any gang member would be caught on video.

    i still find in hard to believe if what they said was true, that they must have had many chances to get help from police or security people at the airport in Spain or Peru.
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    I heard on the news this morning that the women have not been formally interviewed as there is no interpreter available. If that is correct then no police action will probably have been taken to confirm or disprove their claims.

    Even if investigation has taken place, it is impossible to reasonably comment of what they have discovered as I understand no details have been disclosed.


    Joebloggs . if any of the gang were on the flight with them, then it would be pretty easy to find out who they were…

    I have not heard any explanation how the women got to Peru. I did not hear that they were ‘escorted’ on the flight to there so Joe your comment about surveillance cameras at present seems irrelevant.


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    There is a mention in the report of a third girl that got away? If this girl could be found then maybe she could corroborate their story. As others have said , if a gang member was on the flight why wasn't he detained once they had told their story?

    Its very hard to tell if these girls are just telling a story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    I heard on the news this morning that the women have not been formally interviewed as there is no interpreter available. If that is correct then no police action will probably have been taken to confirm or disprove their claims.

    Even if investigation has taken place, it is impossible to reasonably comment of what they have discovered as I understand no details have been disclosed.


    Joebloggs . if any of the gang were on the flight with them, then it would be pretty easy to find out who they were…

    I have not heard any explanation how the women got to Peru. I did not hear that they were ‘escorted’ on the flight to there so Joe your comment about surveillance cameras at present seems irrelevant.
    She also revealed that the first time the women met was after being kidnapped and taken to the drug cartel's safe house in Majorca.

    Ms Reid was the first to be sent to Lima, on August 1.

    She was joined by photography student and former nightclub hostess Ms McCollum Connolly a day later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    As others have said , if a gang member was on the flight why wasn't he detained once they had told their story?.
    As others have said , if a gang member was on the flight why wasn't he detained once they had told their story?

    Firstly, they did not actually board the flight, secondly it seems they have not been questioned (no interpreter) and so far we don’t know if the women knew who the ‘escort’ was, just a 'gang member’ keeping them under observation. If they really believed that, then maybe no escort was needed by the gang. They would of course be ‘met’ on arrival.

    OK that's it for me. I know better than to speculate further, if and until, more accurate info comes to light. As I said above ' The jury is still out for me '


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    I just feel sorry for their family members back in the UK. Pretty horrific situation IMO.. As always..Too many Judges condemning without evidence or real facts.. Guilty as charged!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I just feel sorry for their family members back in the UK. Pretty horrific situation IMO.. As always..Too many Judges condemning without evidence or real facts.. Guilty as charged!!
    Spare a thought for all the poor people who would have been effected and addicted and ruined
    if this stuff had have made it into the UK

    Yes i have judged them and i plead guilty on that one

    These 2 were not exactly "students" on a gap year in IBIZA
    One of them was sacked by her x boss in Ibiza for drinking too much on duty
    The alibi is well used by many drug mules all over the world
    They did not appear to look very threatened to me when they stuffed their faces with
    cake after being caught red handed at the airport if anything they seemed to revel in the limelight
    It shows the level of intelligence we are dealing with here


    There must have been many occasions when they could have informed the police or authorities
    They chose not to inform anyone.....
    I dare say in the coming weeks much more will be revealed about these 2


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    .Too many Judges condemning without evidence or real facts.. Guilty as charged!!
    caught with £1.5million of cocaine

    Quote Originally Posted by London_Manila View Post
    There must have been many occasions when they could have informed the police or authorities
    They chose not to inform anyone.....
    i think any reasonable person would have exactly done this, I know I would have have done
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    I feel that there must be something genuine in their story, because clearly the Peruvian authorities are believing them. I wonder whether they cooperated from an early stage with the authorities. They look frightfully relaxed and comfortable during all of the TV footage which doesn't make any sense unless they are being treated very well.

    I know that Filipino seafarers get drawn into being drug mules on some of the South America-Europe liner trades, and serious threats are made to their families back home. I know someone who used to be an informant for the DEA in the US who told me a lot of stories about how bad these gangs actually are.


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    Phil Collins' nephews gang apparently involved.

    http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/15/nephew...-pair-3924942/


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