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13th August 2013 #31
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just loving all this.
now--idea#2
my lady applies from the filis for visit visa to las vegas--next spring ---say.
at the same time--she applies for a shenghan visa for---say--holland (nearest to UK --lots speak our language )
we marry in las vegas--then on to holland--live there 3-6 months--newlyweds
then i get a family permit to bring her back here.
have i gone wrong somewhere?
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13th August 2013 #32
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You'll need to be exercising treaty rights in Holland .... (means residing AND working and both of you in possession of the required local residence docs/cards)....but in principle looks OK.
Worth doing your research for the nitty-gritty though. Especially concerning evidencing that your relationship with your partner is genuine and subsisting
(that's a popular refusal by UKBA for EEA Family Permit)
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13th August 2013 #33
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(means residing AND working
i'm retired now--but--could it be possible for my new wife to work?--or does it have to be me?
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13th August 2013 #35
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aah well--at least the las vegas plan is a belter.
its hard to believe we first met nearly 2 years ago---and coped with almost a year's separation. shes here with me now for an extended holiday---but we need to start making plans for next year now.
thanks again for your advice Terpe---it really lifted my spirits.
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13th August 2013 #36
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Must be you as the EEA National exercising treaty rights.
That's why I am renouncing by UK nationality so that I only have my Irish nationality (dual at present). That way I can take my wife to UK without a family permit or a visa. She has been to Gibraltar a couple of time 'I was practicing'.
We live in Spain now.
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14th August 2013 #37
wow can I do that to go to us get married then enter uk
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14th August 2013 #38
what about giving up her philippine passport and becoming stateless therefore she won,t come under philippine laws lol
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14th August 2013 #39
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Terpe will probably know the answer to that
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14th August 2013 #40
after seeing so many bigmac avatars is makin me hungry I link i,ll go and have one haha
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I would hardly think it's going to be easy getting a Visit Visa for your Philippine National into a country the sponsor DOESN'T reside
The Americans themselves have a much harder time getting the spouse and fiancee visas than us British do. We aren't the only civilized country having trouble keeping out undesirables. In fact the America's are the No1 destination.
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14th August 2013 #42
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14th August 2013 #43
It's not really virtually impossible. It depends on the consul's discretion. At least in getting a US tourist visa, the applicant would be interviewed upon submission of application and the result would be known right away. My best friend got a 10 year multiple entry tourist visa. Only a few questions were asked to her, like the purpose of visit, where to stay and the duration of the visit. That's it. She got the visa. She said the consul barely looked at her documents and just interviewed her. The consul would decide based on the documents submitted and the interview. I'm guessing they have a way to see if someone's being genuine in the interview or not.
I applied for a tourist visa before. But I was refused on the fact that I was only working for a year in my company that time (after coming back from working in Singapore) and they think I might look for another job in the US. That was their ground for refusal. Then after a year, I was granted a working visa for my company but I never got to used it. When I go back to the Philippines, I'm going to apply for a US tourist visa again.-=rayna.keith=-
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
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14th August 2013 #44
when i got married 2nd time in florida we was told to take lots of things but all that was asked was passports no birth certs no devorce papers i had been married before and had paperwork to prove i was free to remarry but they never asked just paid the fee and married couple days have look at there site its got wedding requirements there its Stay Happy, Stay In Love Wedding Chapel
www.stayhappystayinloveweddingchapels.com
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You know what i mean End of the day the Filipino is going to have to prove they are coming back home. Like i said, if their own citizens get a tough time of it what makes one think the Filipino partnering a British citizen won't .
Yes, ''sponsor'' was the wrong word
The Filipino still has to prove they have the means to stay. .I wonder where that's coming from ....yes, the trusty old Brit of course. ..sponsorship by stealth
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15th August 2013 #48
well ive got a question if thats the case how can my g f prove she has the funds to stay when she is a housewife coz I support her as we have been living together as man and wife in the philippines for nearly 3 years ,plus what visa do I actually apply for if we travel together to visit and stay at my own house for 6 months
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You will be the sponsor. .unlike both going as tourists to visit USA. You are a British citizen, even though you will be visiting you will have to show u can support her stay here.
When the ex mother in law came over we got a family visit Visa.
You state you been living as husband and wife so I would say a visit Visa. When I did the woman's, I got professional advice. .I suggest likewise. Unlike spouse and fiance the visit and tourist visas are a bit grey. Don't trust well meaning hearsay.
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As a Brit you can come and go as you wish.
If your g/f wants to VISIT UK then she'll need to apply for a Visit Visa.
Since you have been living together in a genuine and subsisting relationship like marriage for at least 2 years, then she'll have the option of applying for a Family Visit Visa.
She'll need to follow all the requirements of the Family Visit Visa and of course you'll need to prepare a letter of invitation and sponsorship.
Your sponsorship will include financial support for funding of airfares and for accommodation and day-to-day maintenance.
Since you are actually living in the Philippines it should (theoretically) be somewhat easier to demonstrate good reasons to return. However, be prepared to overcome the ECO's presumption that there's an immigration intent.
If you're seriously considering a Family Visit Visa don't get too hung up on the myriad stories of refusal reasons. Just do it.
The cost is relatively low and any initial refusal may be easily countered and enable a subsequent application to be granted.
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15th August 2013 #52
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I might have to backtrack somewhat as I'm not 100% certain that Family Visit is correct given that you'll be travelling together.
If you were already in UK then it would be.
Maybe a good idea to check with the Embassy first or just let it be understood that your in UK already.
Maybe someone here can confirm?
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going back to the las vegas wedding idea---a question arises:
if we go this route--and my new wife then returns to the filis---what about her passport--? it will still have to be in her current--married name--surely--so--will this be acceptable to UKBA--when she applies for a spouse visa--married to me?
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27th October 2013 #56
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If you were to get married anywhere in the world, her passport will remain in her maiden name until such time as she changes her passport under her married name.
Some folks don't change their passport to reflect their married name until the passport need renewing... no problem at all with UKBA.
The marriage certificate provides the 'paper trail' and connection.
What's your concern ?
What's on you mind ?
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27th October 2013 #57
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Some folks don't change their passport to reflect their married name until the passport need renewing... no problem at all with UKBA.
And some women don't ever change their name. In Spain by law they cannot do so and in UK they can choose whether to or not. In fact there is no UK law which says they can change their name but equally there is no law which says they cannot, that most do, is just a custom, supported by Common Law.
Thus it is not a UK legal requirement for a woman to change her name on marriage. As Terpe says, the marriage cert confirms her married status.
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reassuring replies guys--thanks
whats on my mind ?
we didnt want to end up in a no-mans land--married in america--yet still lacking proper documents to facilitate a spouse visa.
we are adopting a 3-prong approach to the next year or so:
1--las vegas wedding---doo able---but leaves a risk should my wife want to visit the filis at some future date---bigamy charge
2--annulment--weve now discovered the 2 year timescale may well be drastically reduced. say--to 3 months--?? sounds like a plan
3--the 2 year relationship way: weve now got a UK bank account--in both names--at my address--a useful start to the papertrail---which may well help if we decide to go for fiancee --or spouse visa in 6 months time.
anything else we need to do--at this stage ?
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Totally agree Mark...'family values', respect for your kids, etc.
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