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    Exclamation New UKBA Requirements for Settlement and Naturalisation

    08 April 2013

    Today (8 April 2013), the Home Office is publishing a statement of intent outlining planned changes to requirements for those applying to settle in the UK, or become naturalised as British citizens.

    From 28 October 2013, applicants in both categories will be required to pass the Life in the UK Test and to hold a B1 (intermediate) level English language speaking and listening qualification. This change will strengthen the citizenship process, replacing the current system which requires applicants to sit either the life in the UK test or show language progression from one English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) level to the next, but not both.

    The knowledge of language and life requirement for settlement (Indefinite leave to remain)

    From 28 October 2013, there will be two parts to the knowledge of language and life requirement, both of which must be met by all applicants for settlement unless the individual is exempt. Applicants will be required to:
    pass the Life in the UK test; and
    to have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or its equivalent.

    The knowledge of language and life requirement for naturalisation

    The knowledge of language and life requirement for naturalisation as a British citizen will be the same as that for settlement, and the same English language qualifications will be accepted.

    English language qualifications

    A range of English language qualifications will be accepted as evidence that an applicant has met the B1 level speaking and listening requirements.

    These include:
    Qualifications covering speaking and listening at B1 or above from the Home Office's Secure English Language Test (SELT) list.

    ESOL qualifications at entry levels 1, 2 or 3, including speaking and listening, that have been regulated by the Office of Qualifications and Examinations Regulation (Ofqual). The qualification must be listed as an ESOL qualification on the Ofqual Register of Regulated Qualifications and must have been taken in England, Wales or Northern Ireland.
    A National Qualification in ESOL at Scottish Qualifications Framework levels 4, 5 or 6, awarded by the Scottish Qualifications Authority and taken in Scotland.

    For full details of the new requirements, please see the statement of intent.

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    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/si...latest+news%29


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    Just to clarify, the above new requirements DO NOT affect in any way the English Language Requirements which apply to any Visa applications for leave to enter UK (Spouse / Partner / Fiance(e) etc) or to FLR(M) (Further Leave to Remain) applications.
    Those applications will remain at A1 level.

    The new requirements DO APPLY to ALL ILR and British Citizenship aplications from 28 October 2013 onwards. Regardless that applicant may already have a pass certificate at A1 level

    Those folks who have already passed the Life in UK Test based on the previous (old) handbook will not be expected to take a revised Life in UK Test , even if they apply for settlement on or after 28 October 2013.


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    Hi peter does the english speaking & listening test apply for naturalisation for those who have ilr under the old rules or do they carry on under the old rules with just the life in the uk test pass needed




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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    Hi peter does the english speaking & listening test apply for naturalisation for those who have ilr under the old rules or do they carry on under the old rules with just the life in the uk test pass needed
    Hi Stevie,
    This is a new requirement.
    For Naturalisation, 'old rules' (pre-July 2012) or 'new rules' do not come into it.

    Anyone who applies for Naturalisation on or after 28 October 2013 will need to have:-

    1. A Life in UK Test (if a pass is already held then it will not need to be retaken)
    2. A pass certificate for English Language speaking and listening at B1 level or higher

    Unfortunately Steve, this means your wife will need to take this new English Language test before she can apply for British Citizenship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post

    Anyone who applies for Naturalisation on or after 28 October 2013 will need to have:-

    1. A Life in UK Test (if a pass is already held then it will not need to be retaken)
    2. A pass certificate for English Language speaking and listening at B1 level or higher
    Hello Sir Terpe,

    I just want to ask about this B1 level English test. I took my A1 level English test before i came to the UK. My results are B1 for Listening, B1 for Reading, B2 for speaking and B1 for Writing. My question is, do i still need to take that B1 English test when i apply for British Citizenship?

    Thank you very much in advance..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josieyam65 View Post
    Hello Sir Terpe,

    I just want to ask about this B1 level English test. I took my A1 level English test before i came to the UK. My results are B1 for Listening, B1 for Reading, B2 for speaking and B1 for Writing. My question is, do i still need to take that B1 English test when i apply for British Citizenship?

    Thank you very much in advance..
    If your English Language pass certificate states level B1 (or equivalent score) and.... your certificate is still valid (many certificates expire after 2 years) then you'll be fine with the one you have.
    Which English Language test did you take?
    If it's IELTS then your certificate might expire (or already be expired) before you're eligible for British Citizenship.
    Better to check that so you can be prepared.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josieyam65 View Post
    Hello Sir Terpe,

    I just want to ask about this B1 level English test. I took my A1 level English test before i came to the UK. My results are B1 for Listening, B1 for Reading, B2 for speaking and B1 for Writing. My question is, do i still need to take that B1 English test when i apply for British Citizenship?

    Thank you very much in advance..
    If the certificate you have is still valid (or not past expiration date) by the time you apply for the ILR, then you don't need to retake your English test. Otherwise, you have to retake.
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    Thanks, raynaputi.

    I can't see any expiry date or validity date in the certificate. Its only the exam date. Does that mean its still valid?

    Thanks again


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    Ohh dear. Not another new rules again? Its never ending!

    I have just checked my documents, my english test expires next year and my BRP expires 2015 so it is clear as water that I am going to take a bloody English TEST again! This is just getting ridiculous. Where is the bloody justice.

    I wonder if taking ESOL will free me from both English Language requirement and Life in the UK test? Do you think thats possible?


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    Quote Originally Posted by melovesengland View Post
    ....I wonder if taking ESOL will free me from both English Language requirement and Life in the UK test? Do you think thats possible?
    No.
    Whichever way you decide to meet the requirements there will need to be an element that includes a pass certificate of Life in UK and addionally a pass certificate for speaking and listening qualification in English at B1

    As it stands currently, it's possible to participate in an ESOL Citizenship based course.
    You still need to secure that English Language pass certificate though.
    However, after 28 October that route is no longer available. I believe there were many abuses of that system.

    As the new requirement states, you will need two things:-

    - A pass the Life in the UK test
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    - A speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 or higher.


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    Yeah I have just checked that on the UKBA website as well Sir Peter. Maybe thats one of the reasons why they revised that system again. Errrr. Anyway, they left us with no other choices but to do such things.


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    Thanks Peter - it's crazy that someone can live here for 3yrs & still needs to pass an English speaking test




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    I know Stevie. Ridiculous! Tsk Tsk Tsk


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    Thanks Peter - it's crazy that someone can live here for 3yrs & still needs to pass an English speaking test
    Stevie, I disagree.
    If you're going to be a citizen of this country.... then a certain standard of English should be required.
    I also think that successful applicants should also be on a "trial period", of for example 5 years.
    Certain criminal convictions should mean their citizenship (and British passport) being rescinded.

    ... as an aside...
    For many years I've worked as an Electoral Registration officer in SE London, getting people to fill out & return their electoral registration forms.
    I'm now no longer amazed at the number of people I encounter who claim British citizenship, but who can't string more than 5 words of English together in a sentence, or grasp any concept of what is required from them (re registration).
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    Thanks peter its crazy that someone can live here for 3yrs & still needs to pass an english speaking test

    I think that's pretty understandable. I can understand it from UKBA point of view.

    I've seen some people here who are residents and been here for 10 years and still not fluent with the English language.
    I think that is only fair, like there are children who go to school and don't even speak a word of English because their parents who are residents here are not good with it.

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    Anyone know where these english test centres are situated across the uk?




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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie c View Post
    Anyone know where these englush test centres are situated across the uk?
    Steve, you'd need to check against the UKBA approved English Language Test listing here

    Just for IELTS you can search on the webpage here for 59 test centres in UK

    IELTS - Test Centres - Search

    I'll try to put together a listing later. It might be helpful for many folks.


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    Many thanks Peter, so IELTS is accepted by UKBA?




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    All this means is my wife had better sit and pass the "Life in the UK" Test before October this year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    All this means is my wife had better sit and pass the "Life in the UK" Test before October this year.
    Yes, and also either submit ILR application or Sit and pass the B1 level English Test before then also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Yes, and also either submit ILR application or Sit and pass the B1 level English Test before then also.
    How soon can i submit the ILR application after being here or so i have to wait the 5 years as i am on the new system which came in to force last April 2012.

    Since my wife arrived here last December i have not logged on here much and i think i need to keep up to date with what is going on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    How soon can i submit the ILR application after being here or so i have to wait the 5 years as i am on the new system which came in to force last April 2012.

    Since my wife arrived here last December i have not logged on here much and i think i need to keep up to date with what is going on.
    Rory, the so-called 'new rules' were implemented 9th July 2012

    Anyone being granted visa leading to settlement after that date will be following a basic 5 year immigration journey.

    If your wife arrived December 2012 under old rules she will have an initial visa to remain here which has a vaidity of 33 months.
    Shortly before the first period of 30 months living in UK has been reached she should then apply for a further period of 30 months under FLR(M)

    Shortly before the 60 month (5 year) qualifying period ends she will be eligible to apply for ILR
    Taking December 2012 as the base, she will be looking to apply for ILR sometime November 2017


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Rory, the so-called 'new rules' were implemented 9th July 2012

    Anyone being granted visa leading to settlement after that date will be following a basic 5 year immigration journey.

    If your wife arrived December 2012 under old rules she will have an initial visa to remain here which has a vaidity of 33 months.
    Shortly before the first period of 30 months living in UK has been reached she should then apply for a further period of 30 months under FLR(M)

    Shortly before the 60 month (5 year) qualifying period ends she will be eligible to apply for ILR
    Taking December 2012 as the base, she will be looking to apply for ILR sometime November 2017
    Hi Terpe so this 5 year immigration journey...what does it comprise of now then?will the visa be valid for 33 months like old way or is it a 5 yr visa??what are the new challenges and what are the checkpoints so to speak on this basic 5 year immigration journey??


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    Thank you for the dates, i will note them in my diary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    Thank you for the dates, i will note them in my diary.
    Rory, please double check the actual dates that apply to your wife.
    The dates I indicated were just a rough idea based on the general info you posted

    Applications may be made up to 28 days before the anniversary date or visa expiry.


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    We would want to stay a bit longer before we apply for naturalisation, to make the most of what we paid for premium service ILR , ...but ouch!! the fees increased in a blink and the IELTS will cost me £131 (Oxford) ..NO more rip-off!!... I am applying for naturalisation before October!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sars_notd_virus View Post
    We would want to stay a bit longer before we apply for naturalisation, to make the most of what we paid for premium service ILR , ...but ouch!! the fees increased in a blink and the IELTS will cost me £131 (Oxford) ..NO more rip-off!!... I am applying for naturalisation before October!!
    SO YOU MEAN SARS if we apply before oct we wont b affected as i rem we both same scenario I am on ILR too 3 years here on June or was May sorry lols am in panic readinf this thread you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moy View Post
    SO YOU MEAN SARS if we apply before oct we wont b affected as i rem we both same scenario I am on ILR too 3 years here on June or was May sorry lols am in panic readinf this thread you know
    dont panic MOy, as long as you got the money and the documents for naturalisation everything will be fine ..I just cant be bothered to to sit for an English test especially if the test is NOT Free and I have to waste my one whole day of PAID work just to pay the leeches!!
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    Such a money-spinning joke. We passed english test in manila for fiancee visa. Post arrival and pre marriage, provider was then taken off the list so we had to go to Pearson and got the test done again for FLR (all disciplines passed at either B1 or B2). Now they change the rule again and pearson test only valid two years which means we will have to do it again before applying for a passport.

    Three english tests for my wife who has held down a job here in London for the past year. Pathetic! Last hurrah for the 'UKBA' before it is disbanded completely. Good riddance to bad rubbish. What other changes will they slip in before we can apply for naturalisation next July?


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    argggggggggggg now im totally confuse am on ILR and would be eligible to apply this june if am correct (3 years) in the UK..what im suppose to do..apply before oct and will be exempted from new rule?? or will take test again to be able to apply citizenship..
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