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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    She fought for the minority not the majority and thus can't be classed as a great leader. Both her and Tony Blair have screwed up this country.


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    I was quite young when she was in power, but I definitely wasn't a fan of her at the time. However, many of the things she did needed to be done, such as breaking the stranglehold that the Unions had on the economy. Other policies were a disaster, for example, the Poll Tax.

    But whatever your view on her politics, you have to admire her drive and self belief. To begin as a grocer's daughter and rise to be the first female Prime Minister, whilst winning 3 general elections, is an immense personal achievement.

    RIP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    First Jimmy Saville and now Margaret Thatcher ......great news for the minors !!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    She fought for the minority not the majority and thus can't be classed as a great leader. Both her and Tony Blair have screwed up this country.
    Talking about minorities

    Milipede is standing by the feral scroungers and work shy when 67% of the electorate want benefit reform


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    "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

    - Margaret Thatcher.

    "We are simply asking to have our own money back."

    - 1984, Margaret Thatcher demanding a budget rebate for Britain at a European Union summit.


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    i think closing down the mines was like cutting off your nose to spite your face, the reason she shut the mines was to kill off the stronghold of the unions, which weakened and eventualy destroyed the unions, the unions brought their destruction on themselves through striking for winnie ninni things,

    but to destroy the mines was a wicked thing to do to our country, those mines had many years left in them and at the time was well worth modernisation


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

    - Margaret Thatcher.
    "The problem with capitalism is eventually the rich have all your money"

    - Joe Bloggs 2013

    tell me one thing she created that wasn't all ready there or which she sold off ?

    i remember the early 80's they were bad times for many, record unemployment.
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    Hundreds gather in Glasgow, Liverpool and Brixton to 'celebrate' death of Margaret Thatcher


    http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/08/hundre...tcher-3588431/

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-29182412.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-8565125.html

    Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead enters download chart top 40 following Margaret Thatcher’s death

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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    The problem with capitalism is eventually the rich have all your money".
    and they do, now they are bleeding us all dry right down to the last drop, they will be ok though, what with all their investments abroad,


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    and they do , now they are bleeding us all dry right down to the last drop, they will be ok though, what with all their investments abroad,
    and their 'essential' tax cut while the rest of us struggle
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    I'm sure all those 'poor' working class people who were able to buy cheap council properties and are now living in Spain off the equity aren't going to complain .


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    many didn't like her, but no death is something to laugh about. RIP Thatcher





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    and the last from me on Thatcher
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    I won't celebrate her death but I certainly don't mourn her passing. She divided communities, turned neighbours against each other sold the countries silver for pennies and council homes for votes.
    People choose to interpret history in their own view. Unlike what some have said on here she wasn't against Europe she just fought for a rebate. History actually shows that on the only occasion that this country was allowed a referendum on membership of the EU that her party was strongly in favour of us remaining in. She is as much to blame for our current situation in Europe as Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron.
    She was saved in her first term as Prime Minister by a war in the South Atlantic, a war that she didn't win. A war that was won by the heroes who serve in our armed forces the same armed forces that her party is cutting to pieces at the moment.
    History will also show that she had more riots on the streets of this country than any other Prime Minister in our time. She tried and in part succeeded in doing away with society and a sense of community. She created the loadsamoney culture and encouraged people to walk over everybody else to attain wealth. She's responsible for the greedy capitalist culture that we now have particularly in the City of London. The same culture that preach only the strong survive but when it all goes wrong rely on the weak to pay off their debts.
    I remember her stealing the words of St Francis of Assissi when she was elected in '79..."Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope." I would say she failed miserably.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    I won't celebrate her death but I certainly don't mourn her passing. She divided communities, turned neighbours against each other sold the countries silver for pennies and council homes for votes.
    People choose to interpret history in their own view. Unlike what some have said on here she wasn't against Europe she just fought for a rebate. History actually shows that on the only occasion that this country was allowed a referendum on membership of the EU that her party was strongly in favour of us remaining in. She is as much to blame for our current situation in Europe as Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron.
    She was saved in her first term as Prime Minister by a war in the South Atlantic, a war that she didn't win. A war that was won by the heroes who serve in our armed forces the same armed forces that her party is cutting to pieces at the moment.
    History will also show that she had more riots on the streets of this country than any other Prime Minister in our time. She tried and in part succeeded in doing away with society and a sense of community. She created the loadsamoney culture and encouraged people to walk over everybody else to attain wealth. She's responsible for the greedy capitalist culture that we now have particularly in the City of London. The same culture that preach only the strong survive but when it all goes wrong rely on the weak to pay off their debts.
    I remember her stealing the words of St Francis of Assissi when she was elected in '79..."Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope." I would say she failed miserably.
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    At least back in those days our police were allowed to fight back when attacked by the miners, these days they just have to stand and watch cities burn due to human rights as well as health and safety
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    hay ho we all have our own opinion
    And mine is she was the greatest leader this country will ever have,and if there was someone like her now in politics i would vote again


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    I won't celebrate her death but I certainly don't mourn her passing. She divided communities, turned neighbours against each other sold the countries silver for pennies and council homes for votes.
    People choose to interpret history in their own view. Unlike what some have said on here she wasn't against Europe she just fought for a rebate. History actually shows that on the only occasion that this country was allowed a referendum on membership of the EU that her party was strongly in favour of us remaining in. She is as much to blame for our current situation in Europe as Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron.
    She was saved in her first term as Prime Minister by a war in the South Atlantic, a war that she didn't win. A war that was won by the heroes who serve in our armed forces the same armed forces that her party is cutting to pieces at the moment.
    History will also show that she had more riots on the streets of this country than any other Prime Minister in our time. She tried and in part succeeded in doing away with society and a sense of community. She created the loadsamoney culture and encouraged people to walk over everybody else to attain wealth. She's responsible for the greedy capitalist culture that we now have particularly in the City of London. The same culture that preach only the strong survive but when it all goes wrong rely on the weak to pay off their debts.
    I remember her stealing the words of St Francis of Assissi when she was elected in '79..."Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope." I would say she failed miserably.
    very good


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    somewhere in the short term history people got twisted , because surely the working man should support and vote for labour and certainly not conservatives, conservatives vote conservative,
    working mans grand parents would be turning in their grave

    but the way things are today there isnt one party that represents the true ideal, mp.s switch from one party to another, they are not there for the people , either white color or the working man, they are only there to fill their own pockets, and sell us down the river


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    somewhere in the short term history people got twisted , because surely the working man should support and vote for labour and certainly not conservatives, conservatives vote conservative,
    working mans grand parents would be turning in their grave

    but the way things are today there isnt one party that represents the true ideal, mp.s switch from one party to another, they are not there for the people , either white color or the working man, they are only there to fill their own pockets, and sell us down the river
    who ever you voted for all they did was keep you under there thumb,that has never ever changed,


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    Margaret Thacher.

    The first and only woman, so far, to have been elected as the leader of major political party in the United Kingdom
    The first and only woman, so far, to have held the position of British Prime Minister.
    The longest-serving British Prime Minister of the 20th century.

    She once said:-
    You know, if you just set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything, wouldn't you, at any time? And you would achieve nothing
    Here are some more Thatcher quotes:-

    My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day's work for an honest day's pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police.
    I personally have always voted for the death penalty because I believe that people who go out prepared to take the lives of other people forfeit their own right to live. I believe that that death penalty should be used only very rarely, but I believe that no-one should go out certain that no matter how cruel, how vicious, how hideous their murder, they themselves will not suffer the death penalty.
    Mr. Chairman, you have invited me to speak on the subject of Britain and Europe. Perhaps I should congratulate you on your courage. If you believe some of the things said and written about my views on Europe, it must seem rather like inviting Genghis Khan to speak on the virtues of peaceful coexistence! ...The European Community is one manifestation of that European identity, but it is not the only one. We must never forget that east of the Iron Curtain, peoples who once enjoyed a full share of European culture, freedom and identity have been cut off from their roots. We shall always look on Warsaw, Prague and Budapest as great European cities...To try to suppress nationhood and concentrate power at the centre of a European conglomerate would be highly damaging and would jeopardise the objectives we seek to achieve. Europe will be stronger precisely because it has France as France, Spain as Spain, Britain as Britain, each with its own customs, traditions and identity. It would be folly to try to fit
    them into some sort of identikit European personality...it is ironic that just when those countries such as the Soviet Union, which have tried to run everything from the centre, are learning that success depends on dispersing power and decisions away from the centre, there are some in the Community who seem to want to move in the opposite direction. We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    hay ho we all have our own opinion
    And mine is she was the greatest leader this country will ever have,and if there was someone like her now in politics i would vote again
    Totally agree


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    In death as in life she divides opinion


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    Some of the policies on inefficient industries were necessary, but it was done with such speed, and her brutality and self-righteousness will not be quickly forgotten. After the Falklands War, which to her credit she won, she should have adopted a solemn and respectful attitude towards the dead of both sides, instead of "rejoice, rejoice". Well, I'm not rejoicing, but I'm not particularly lamenting either as we move on to a new era.


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    We're supposed to rejoice after winning a war ..... remembrance of all the dead comes later.

    Is it just me or do others think that seeing adults on the TV celebrating the death of a human, who is someone's nan is just sick, pathetic and childish, and just shows you that respect in this country is at an all time low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    We're supposed to rejoice after winning a war ..... remembrance of all the dead comes later.

    Is it just me or do others think that seeing adults on the TV celebrating the death of a human, who is someone's nan is just sick, pathetic and childish, and just shows you that respect in this country is at an all time low?
    you are so right, it should never ever be allowed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    We're supposed to rejoice after winning a war ..... remembrance of all the dead comes later.

    Is it just me or do others think that seeing adults on the TV celebrating the death of a human, who is someone's nan is just sick, pathetic and childish, and just shows you that respect in this country is at an all time low?
    i thought 'respect' was earned , and I suppose she had little respect for some people, as they had for her.

    thatcher died in Ritz, she been there for months, i wonder if she thought about the old who cant afford to heat their home or buy a ritz biscuit never mind stay in a posh hotel

    In January 1982, Mrs Thatcher wrote to the Tory MP Richard Needham, defending the decision to scrap the only British warship in the vicinity of the Falklands, HMS Endurance. The government needed to save money.

    Three months later, with Endurance in the wrong place and the Falklands under Argentine occupation, her government was plunged into what contemporaries saw as the worst overseas crisis since the loss of the Suez Canal.


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    i have come to the conclusion that lots of people are sheep, everyone just seems to follow each other, so called pop stars do a song about someone they dont like and the sheep buy it and they dont like that person too, a actor dont like someone and says so, and again the sheep dont like them too,
    Watching the news yesterday and the sheep was there again singing and dancing some may not knew who Margaret Thatcher was, but hey its a party and i am a sheep so i will go along with what most are saying.
    Yes maybe she did wrong, but remember you voted her in and in this free country you had the choice not to keep her in power.
    You know my feeling about voting and politics so really i am saying this from a human being, what i have seen these last few days has disgusted me so much i am ashamed


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    You're spot on there Steve.

    It's also the 'sheep' effect that makes the media and advertising industry a fortune every year, not to mention RELIGION. (Oh, did I mention religion again ).

    Sometimes people also behave like LEMMINGS.


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    No doubt we'll see a few 'sheep' in the vicinity of Thatchers funeral too.


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