Jimmy Savile - as it happened ?

[Doc Alan]

I would not normally start a thread on a topic apparently unrelated to this forum. However, those members who met here this summer may remember me pointing out one of the late Sir Jimmy Savile’s homes. He was famous for TV shows like “ Jim'll Fix It “ and “ Top Of The Pops “, and did much charity work. There is now a gold commemorative plaque on the wall of his apartment.

The steep public path leading from near his apartment to the “ Cliff Bridge “ and town centre has recently been named “ Savile’s View “. One or two forum members thought “ Angina Hill “ would have been appropriate !

A documentary tomorrow evening ( “ Exposure – ITV1, 11.10 pm, Wednesday 3 October “ ) investigates allegations that Jimmy Savile used his fame to abuse vulnerable teenage girls. No matter what the allegations are, he’s not here to defend himself, having died last year, aged 84, and is buried at Scarborough.

[lastlid]

We have a statue of the late Norman Wisdom on the promenade here. As a point of information.

[Steve.r]

I cant say I ever took to Jimmy Savile, but Norman was an absolute star.

[lastlid]

I cant say I ever took to Jimmy Savile, but Norman was an absolute star.

Yeah. Funny guy. He saw out his last days here, evidently.

[joebloggs]

but Norman was an absolute star.

what a his father was , fatherly love . a brave and great man Norman was

[lastlid]

what a his father was , fatherly love . a brave and great man Norman was

I remember watching his life story in 2010 when he died. Yep his dad was a bit of an arsenal.

[Arthur Little]

The public path leading from near his apartment to the “ Cliff Bridge “ and town centre has recently been named “ Savile’s View “. One or two forum members thought “ Angina Hill “ would have been appropriate !

Why so, Alan? ... was that the name of one of his alleged victims? if I appear to be "behind the times".

[Doc Alan]

Why so, Alan? ... was that the name of one of his alleged victims? if I appear to be "behind the times".

Not one of his alleged victims, Arthur, but there's a risk of " acute angina " climbing that hill !

[Arthur Little]

Oops ... MY mistake ... I'd misread the name as "Angelina" ... when, in fact, it was *Angina Hill. Having had occasion to climb *it during the 'Scarborough Weekend', I should've known better!

...

... blame it on my intense frustration at the frequent interruptions the forum has been subjected to in the past 24 hours.

[RickyR]

I just wonder why it's all only coming out now he's not here to defend himself. Just seems a bit odd.

[stevewool]

I just wonder why it's all only coming out now he's not here to defend himself. Just seems a bit odd.

my thought too,

[London_Manila]

Apparently someone has reported him for rape going back decades ago
So whats the point of this if the guy is dead already........
How come they never came forward when he was alive
He cannot exactly stand trail and clear his name so how do the police proceed with a case like this

I suppose there will be many more to come all with a different accusations

[Arthur Little]

So whats the point of this if the guy is dead already........

... NONE ... other than to create a bit of journalistic, media SENSATIONALISM!

[Doc Alan]

... NONE ... other than to create a bit of journalistic, media SENSATIONALISM!

If he had been alive when these new allegations were made, he might have been able to defend himself successfully, which could explain why they were not made at the time ... we may never know.
It would be good if any fees received from the media by those now claiming to have been victims were donated to the charities which he supported ( once they had paid for the counselling which they are said to need after all these years ).

[Terpe]

I don't normally contribute to such threads. But I feel this time I want to say something.

Thus far, these are only allegations. However strong they may seem that's all they are.
It seems so very odd to me that all manner of celebs are now coming out of the woodwork to lay credence these allegations. Where were they at the time these were made?

Personally, I have no idea if these things happened or not, but all will come out at some point.
If these allegations are true, I will feel so very sorry for all those victims who have had to wait such a long time before their horror stories can be revealed and heard.

If true, there are a lot of famous folks who must hang their heads in shame for not pursuing the facts they knew.

[lastlid]

Exposure

THE OTHER SIDE OF JIMMY SAVILE

11.10pm Wednesday ITV

"ITV to screen documentary claiming Jimmy Savile sexually assaulted teenage girls
Exposure programme featuring interviews with several women alleging abuse in the 1970s will air on ITV1 on 3 October"

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-...-teenage-girls

[bigmarco]

I must admit I was never a great fan of Jimmy Saville but always admired him for his charity work and everything he done to help out in the hospitals.

I feel it is so easy to make these sort of allegations against someone who is no longer with us especially as there is probably nobody to defend him. I treat anything like this as highly suspicious as he is quite clearly an easy target now.

I do hope that the police take these allegations seriously and carry out a thorough investigation if only to clear his name.

I will not be watching the programme as I believe it has been made to blacken the reputation of a man who in my mind is innocent of any crime until the police say otherwise.

[lastlid]

Looks like the Savile's View street signs are being removed....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19867893

[Doc Alan]

Looks like the Saville's View street signs are being removed....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19867893

They have been removed.

Understandably there has been much local interest here in Scarborough.


The view which members enjoyed in the summer has been especially good in the autumn sunshine


I've just completed the 7 mile Scarborough-Filey cliff walk - and got the bus back .

[lastlid]

They have been removed.

Understandably there has been much local interest here in Scarborough.


The view which members enjoyed in the summer has been especially good in the autumn sunshine


I've just completed the 7 mile Scarborough-Filey cliff walk - and got the bus back .

And the plaques too? I read they had been grafitted over.

[les_taxi]

I'm still not convinced!
All these cases suddenly appearing and not one of them complained when he was alive!

[imagine]

guilty untill proven innocent seems to be the indication from the savile signs being dismantled

[Arthur Little]

They have been removed.

... suppose they COULD'VE renamed it 'Jimmy Savile View' ... assuming, of course, the allegations are true ... albeit ONLY IF!

[Arthur Little]

I'm still not convinced!
All these cases suddenly appearing and not one of them complained when he was alive!

That's MY feeling also, Les ... put it this way, Esther Rantzen - a one-time supporter of Jimmy Saville's charity work and one of the celebrities interviewed - seemed quick to believe the rumours, yet she was no "saint" herself, by all accounts.

[lastlid]

That's MY feeling also, Les ... put it this way, Esther Rantzen - a one-time supporter of Jimmy Saville's charity work and one of the celebrities interviewed, seemed quick to believe the rumours, yet she was no "saint" herself, by all accounts.

Was she abusing under age girls?

[Arthur Little]

Was she abusing under age girls?

Not to MY knowledge ... nothing unsavoury like that. But in certain other respects - according to what I've read - she was less than perfect, I'm afraid.

[lastlid]

Interesting article on Esther Rantzen.....

"Jimmy Savile allegations: Esther Rantzen's response defies belief
How could Esther Rantzen, the founder of ChildLine, possibly ignore 'green room gossip' about Jimmy Savile's alleged abuse of young girls, asks Katy Brand, in her first Paper Tiger weekly column."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...es-belief.html

[Arthur Little]

Anyway ... turning to more healthy topics ... WHATEVER it's now called, with Doc Alan about it being a lovely vantage point.

And Alan ... congratulations on completing the Scarborough to Filey Cliff Walk - no mean feat, I'll wager! That'll certainly keep you fit!

[Arthur Little]

Interesting article on Esther Rantzen.....

"Jimmy Savile allegations: Esther Rantzen's response defies belief
How could Esther Rantzen, the founder of ChildLine, possibly ignore 'green room gossip' about Jimmy Savile's alleged abuse of young girls, asks Katy Brand, in her first Paper Tiger weekly column."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...es-belief.html

Doesn't necessarily mean she has to believe such malicious rumours ... especially when the man is DEAD and unable to defend himself!

[les_taxi]

Sod it I'm putting in a claim too saying i had a dodgy wiger and Jim fixed it for me