Ukip to merge with the Conservatives

[andy222]

Joe you never know with these polititicians. They say one thing then do another. Farage will be no different. And when they up they say sorry but the damage is already done.

[joebloggs]

i dont think any party has said they will be ban spouses of British citizens coming to the UK, i cant see it ever happening but they can try and make it more difficult

[andy222]

Smokescreens Joe. So if you cant afford to bring your wife here she is banned right?

[joebloggs]

Smokescreens Joe. So if you cant afford to bring your wife here she is banned right?

i suppose its the same as a ban, but over time I'm sure people will find away or the gov will be forced to change the policy by the courts.

[andy222]

We will see Joe thats why my mp is searching the databases now for recent cases that have been won in court. I had an email the other day.

[joebloggs]

We will see Joe thats why my mp is searching the databases now for recent cases that have been won in court. I had a email the other day.

keep up the good work Andy, every British citizen should have the legal right to bring their partner to the UK. no if's or but's - a legal right - as Europeans in the UK have.

[andy222]

Im trying Joe and maybe if he does find a solution I can share it with others.

[lastlid]

. Thats what I was getting at in a previous post Laslid. All himself that guy. If his Mrs wasnt here he would have a different opinion no doubt.

Well, thats it. I was having a read through on what UKIP stands for and their type of immigration policy seems to be pretty draconian to the extent that it could easily affect new settlement applicants in the future more adversly than they do now and even those who are here on ILR that arent british citizens.

One needs to study their immigration policy long and hard before voting for them, lest we stab ourselves in the foot.

[andy222]

Like I said. In his speech in birmingham not once did he mention the 5 year ban. He mentioned keeping eastern europeans out of the country but not all of their policy. Very cute.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...Farage_Speech/

[lastlid]

Anyone whose Wife has not yet settled here be warned. UKIP proposed a 5 year freeze on settlement visas in their manifesto at the last election.

Yes. I saw this somewhere too.

[lastlid]

I dont care if Gwapito votes UKIP or the Monster Raving Loony Party. I imagine the rest of us know to be a bit more cautious.

[lastlid]

Smokescreens Joe. So if you cant afford to bring your wife here she is banned right?

Exactly. Effectively yes. Amounts to the same thing. And Gwapito would like to see the minimum income bar raised!

[lastlid]

Have a look at this. Sounds alright at first, till he gets to the bit on the 5 year freeze.

[andy222]

Agreed..

[joebloggs]

i still think your wrong about the ban..

UKIP’s policy is merely a freeze on permanent settlement. We propose a work permit scheme, where immigrants are able to come to the UK to work if companies need them via work permits. The result is that while under UKIP permanent settlement may fall, temporary settlement and those coming here on work permits are likely to rise

http://www.indhome.com/2012/06/ukip-home-libertarians/


British spouse or intended spouse will only be granted right of entry to the UK,
if they can speak fluent English, and are at least 24 years of age 24, i doubt that will last long

http://www.ukip.org/media/policies/UKIPimmigration.pdf

[lastlid]

The result is that while under UKIP permanent settlement may fall....

BTW No exception clause in there for Filipina spouses or fiancees.



Quoting Dave: 'fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists'

[andy222]

i still think your wrong about the ban..

UKIP’s policy is merely a freeze on permanent settlement. We propose a work permit scheme, where immigrants are able to come to the UK to work if companies need them via work permits. The result is that while under UKIP permanent settlement may fall, temporary settlement and those coming here on work permits are likely to rise

http://www.indhome.com/2012/06/ukip-home-libertarians/


British spouse or intended spouse will only be granted right of entry to the UK,
if they can speak fluent English, and are at least 24 years of age 24, i doubt that will last long

http://www.ukip.org/media/policies/UKIPimmigration.pdf

That was back in 2007 Joe things have changed.

[bigmarco]

Have a look at this. Sounds alright at first, till he gets to the bit on the 5 year freeze.

Good find Lastlid. He quite clearly says that he wants a 5 year freeze in settlement.
Surely if he wanted he could be quite clear and say we intend withdrawing from the EU and stopping the free movement of economic migrants to our shores. But he instead proposes a 5 year freeze on settlement apparently without exception which would worry me a little bit.

[Robert86]

Get them all out.. scumbags the lot of them

[Robert86]

never mind immigration, its no industry that's killing the country.

[gWaPito]

Gwapito posted
Lastlid...there's always gonna be casualties in conflicts ...especially in conflicts worth winning. An unfortunate fact of life.

I suppose as long as it not YOU it doesnt matter. What about the others on here who want their wives to come here?
Come on Lastlid...what you gotta say for yourself

Thats what you originally posted Gwapito but you must of deleted it because you knew you was in the wrong.

Yes yes...guilty as charged...you didn't help Andy by insulting me in post 51....lets keep it friendly ah

Going back to the subject..you guys are answering your own questions...fears of Ukip backtracking on their word that British citizens wil be allowed to bring in there foreign spouses.

A coalition with the Conservatives will lift that fear. Nigel Farage knows full well he wont get a majority standing alone.

[lastlid]

. Nigel Farage knows full well he wont get a majority standing alone.

I would think that David Cameron knows he wont get a majority by taking UKIP on board.

[lastlid]

Going back to the subject..you guys are answering your own questions...fears of Ukip backtracking on there word that British citizens wil be allowed to bring in there foreign spouses.
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I am not answering my own question. I am addressing a daft proposal.

Watch the video. Farage plainly declares his hand on settlement.

[andy222]

Yes yes...guilty as charged...you didn't help Andy by insulting me in post 51....lets keep it friendly ah

Going back to the subject..you guys are answering your own questions...fears of Ukip backtracking on there word that British citizens wil be allowed to bring in there foreign spouses.

A coalition with the Conservatives will lift that fear. Nigel Farage knows full well he wont get a majority standing alone.

Oh i see the plan is to get me banned now? How low will you go? To be honest I love having banter with you. You make me laugh. You're very entertaining.

[gWaPito]

Joe you never know with these polititicians. They say one thing then do another. Farage will be no different. And when they up they say sorry but the damage is already done.

This is exactly why a coalition will work...they will basically keep eachother in check.

For example if it weren't for the Liberals the current min wage on 18.5 k could quite easily of been 26 k had the Conservatives had had there way.

[andy222]

I think you will find it was Baroness Warsi that made them change their mind.

[gWaPito]

Like I said. In his speech in birmingham not once did he mention the 5 year ban. He mentioned keeping eastern europeans out of the country but not all of their policy. Very cute.

You can read Ukip's immigration policy online...I suggest you dont read the Guardian's take on it

[andy222]

You can read Ukip's immigration policy online...I suggest you dont read the Guardian's take on it

I read it online, And I suggest you read this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-7873596.html

[andy222]

You can read Ukip's immigration policy online...I suggest you dont read the Guardian's take on it

Obviously you didnt follow the link I gave.

[lastlid]

You can read Ukip's immigration policy online...I suggest you dont read the Guardian's take on it

Have a watch and listen to the horses mouth. Farage on TV