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Thread: Windows XP vs Windows Vista
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21st August 2007 #31
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Well, if you're using XP and your worry is security. Your internet provider is giving you an INTERNET SECURITY. Most of ISP is providing in every client. McAfee Internet Security is very good.
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21st August 2007 #32
In my own opinion XP is still the BEST. Windows Vista is alot of CRAP, driver wise not all are compatible. It's a waste of space VISTA is..
there is nothing i can't run on vista that i used to have on xp,vista is not a load of crap or waste of space!
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21st August 2007 #33
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Good for you!!! you're the only lucky person who don't have problem with VISTA unlike everybody. It's really depends on what activities you have with you machine. If u just use for chatting and printing that's fine but for us who uses more than chatting and printing. It is really a waste of time and space.
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21st August 2007 #34you're the only lucky person who don't have problem with VISTA unlike everybodyKeith Driscoll - Administrator
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21st August 2007 #35
oh dear not wanting to get into argument,but i totally disagree with your statement charlwill. i know of maybe 10 peoplw with vista installed and after early doubts are totally converted now. ok i do have a good knowledge of pcs but my view is the same.when it first came out sure there were lack of drivers,not anymore as i said before everything from photo editing,game paying,burning discs,running various applications all work great. i use my pc for many reasons not just email and printing! i build my own pcs,and repair other peoples. my pc is always running great,don't use a firewall,use nod 32 and a couple of anti spyware progs.
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21st August 2007 #36
I have not used vista at all.
here are some of the problems I get every day! with w2k/xp
my experience with XP is that is has lots of graphics problems. When I alt-tab the icons don't draw properly - pointless feature & doesnt work properly.
the curved edges on the windows are not anti aliased
both systems. delete a directory & the folder will still show up, click on it it will tell you it doesn't exist
log on/off from xp, the 'workstation locked' dialog doesn't redraw.
password expires tommorow, it says 'your password expires in 1 days'
in word, insert a picture, insert another one.. back to the old directory - not where you were...
if an application locks up, drag another window over it & you can make pretty patterns
in xp my mouse keeps jumping around. mostly keeps going to the bottom left corner .. but not all the time
hit F5 in explorer & it doesn't refresh directories, only files (I think there is a registry hack to fix this?).
recent documents does not delete document that have been deleted already (this has been like this for over 10years!!! still not fixed)
you can connect to another machine with different users (i.e. connect a network drive as one user), then it stops you logging in
then dont get me started on applications
and I'm betting none of those are fixed in vista
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21st August 2007 #37
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21st August 2007 #38
Id rather others do the advanced beta testing other than me, will get involved after about a year thats normally when everything on a piece of software/hardware is sorted.
If you have a pc come with a vista liscense and you downgrade make sure you keep it as once your ready it will save you spending your money later.
With regards security internet wise most important thing is the isp which close or hide many ports and the router as many have firewalls and nat bulit in. I ran a port test on a mates pc and his cable connection and cable modem were the security flaws as he had a fully up to date xp os, with exactly the same av,asw and software fw as me running.
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21st August 2007 #39
nod 32 rules. worst av u can install is norton bloated piece of crap,you even have to dload norton removal tool to get rid of it!
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22nd August 2007 #40
This is the understatement of the century....
I was conned originally to buy Norton, with my first pc, by some pimple faced little dork at Dixon's...
Within 3 months, I had collected 346 viruses, worms, with husbands and wives... Norton Didn't get rid of any of them... But managed to provide a fertile breeding ground...
So my son got the pc in safe mode, deleted Norton and installed AVG free edition........... 35 minutes later the pc was as clean as a whistle.
At the moment, I am using AVAST, again the free edition... Marvellous program, and not as intrusive as AVG
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22nd August 2007 #41
yep norton is crap it likes to own your pc.the 2 you mentioned are both fine but you can't beat nod 32 its best av out there.
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22nd August 2007 #42
You should always run AV AND Anti-Spyware software together to collect all the crap. It does not matter which AV you use, this little beauty will find some crap http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/
Baboyako, most of those problems will not even exist in Vista, as the code is rewritten from scratch, not bolted on as XP is.Keith Driscoll - Administrator
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22nd August 2007 #43
yep use spyware doctor myself along with super anti-spyware professional and ad-aware 2007 + nod 32and win optimiser. i use perfect disc to reg defrag and your uninstaller to remove those parts other powders cannont clean
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22nd August 2007 #44
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2nd September 2007 #46
I kinda like both Vista and XP. But I'd use the Ultimate version of Vista and XP Pro. There's not much you can do with the basic versions of both OSes.
My only beef with Vista is that the Cisco VPN software won't work on it! I'm still trying to find a solution or workaround, and hopefully it exists somewhere on the WWW. I'm back to using my desktop because I have XP on it which allows me to use the VPN software to connect to the company network.
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2nd September 2007 #47
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2nd September 2007 #48
No troubles here, but I use a Mac I use XP at work though and a lot of friend I know are not upgrading to Vista yet.
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2nd September 2007 #49
Oh, no, a Mac user! LOL. Just kidding.
I'm slowly being beguiled by the Mac into converting.
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2nd September 2007 #50
MAC couldn't even do 5% of what I need to run, unless you run Windows on it....then what is the use of having an expensive under-powered computer you can't upgrade?
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2nd September 2007 #51
What do you need to run, Keith? First time I heard someone say that about the Macintosh.
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2nd September 2007 #52Keith Driscoll - Administrator
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2nd September 2007 #53
Oh dear, I seem to have started something Horses for courses (no pun intended Lol) I just prefer the ease of use of the software and I dont play a lot of games
Am I still welcome here ?
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2nd September 2007 #54
Oh, I do. I just don't go to any of the OS fanatics forums because they tend to do a lot of OS bashing, not that some are not unwarranted. I know that some applications do not have Mac versions. And Mac users lament this.
I'm more of a Windows user than a Mac, but there are some apps that are solely for Macintosh that I would like to see ported over to Windows.
Purplealien, of course you are! (I think. Of course I'm not the forum owner LOL).
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2nd September 2007 #55
Was at the Apple retail office in Hanover street london and was waiting around in one of the open plan offices while one of their IT guys fiddled around with a laptop so he could show me a problem they had and a few of the apple staff saw i had one of those usb 3g modems on a windows system you just plug in and play they wanted to try it so we had to download software and fiddle with this and that.
Sorry Apple software and hardware although lovely to look at just don't do the business for me.
Why do you think at first when they moved over to Intel Chips they went to great lengths to stop people dual booting.
THe N900 which is Nokias version of the Iphone already in beta form looks like it will be far better for the average person than the apple version.
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2nd September 2007 #56
Don't mention the Iphone.....my v1605 does much more, basically its a pocket laptop.
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2nd September 2007 #57
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2nd September 2007 #58
Apple's just looking to make another iPod phenomenon. I'm not going to buy into it, just like I've never let myself get sucked into the iPod craze.
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