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6th June 2012 #31
a long time ago when i was married in another life we got tax credits for our son, god knows why but we got so much cant remember how much but it was paid monthly, anyway when we was seperated my son came with me so i got this money, anyway it was april time and you had to fill in the forms to see if there was any change, thats the time when my divorce was going through so i had other things on my mind so i forgot, a few months later i got a letter saying that i owe them money because i did not fill the form in on time, thats when i told them to stick it paid the money to them and thought to myself i will never have any money from the goverment again, funny thing is we did not ask for the money in the first place
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6th June 2012 #32
We've had this argument before ... and I'd rather NOT go through it all again - BUT, there are a great many decent, hard working British people who earn nothing like £26K a year. Quite a few on here, in fact! Okay, you might ... but at what cost timewise? How many extra hours per day do you work for that kind of money? And is it really worth seeing less of your wife and son for the sake of it?
Referring to your 3rd paragraph in #19 ... what's "morally right" about denying an individual the basic human right to bring his/her lawfully wedded partner to live in the country where he/she was born and bred - and paid tax - because he/she simply doesn't earn enough (despite working full time) to sponsor their partner's application?
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6th June 2012 #33
am i missing something here lads annd lasses and before i say it i dont mean to offend anyone at all, but surely we want our partners to be here with us so we can be together and work together for a better life, people dont expect to come here and live free at all, when i say free i mean not helping with work and bringing a income into the household, or is it people come here get pregnant and claim, claim,claim, surely no one is thinking that or am i just a fool thinking everyone wants to improve there life through hard work, like i said this is just my thoughts i dont want to offend anyone
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If one is earning £25500 per annum, how much tax is paid and how much tax credit is recouped?
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6th June 2012 #40
it should be your legal right to bring your partner to the UK, what you earn, what you can or can't claim should have nothing to do with it
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Btw Its actually sons now ..you shouldn't assume what im doing or earning Arthur. Nothing wrong in your last sentence....what is wrong is what ive already pointed out..ie not at the expense of the other tax payers..claiming benefits because of your partner...not too dissimilar to going to the pub with a bunch of mates then expecting them to keep you in fags and drink all night...not the done thing.
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6th June 2012 #42
its a funny old world, there will always be people who claim for every single thing, even in my family there is a few who claim and there children do the same, some have never worked for 40+ years and still they claim. its beyond me
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6th June 2012 #46
some interesting reading, and the problems the gov will face if they try this.
http://www.jcwi.org.uk/sites/default...s/UBLDBL_0.pdf
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"In relation to the increase in the maintenance threshold, the foregoing case studies provide faces
to the nameless 67% MAC refers to in its report.
They show how pregnancy, low or average pay,
accidents, disability, recent entry to the labour market as a graduate, circumstances of victims of
human rights abuses and low currency exchange rates all potentially result in applicants failing the
proposed maintenance requirements.
The case studies also highlight how problematic the proposed implementation of these measures is.
Through exclusion of consideration of third party support, future employment prospects of couples,
savings and employment of the immigrant spouse, even more hurdles are placed in the way of
applicants. Why on any logical count should these be excluded from consideration when calculating
whether maintenance levels are met?
As for the attachment requirement, the two case studies demonstrate the difficulties that those fleeing
from human rights abuses are likely to encounter, and how those settled in the UK for over a decade
may well in future be prevented from reuniting with their spouses / partners.
Helen’s and Adenike’s stories of violence and abuse should remind MPs how probationary periods
disempower their victims, and double lock them into cycles of violence and mental abuse.
All of these case studies should also raise a question as to how far manifesto commitments to
promote and protect family life would in practice be realized in the event of the implementation of
such proposals. They should also lead to a question about the extent to which such proposals fall
below international consensus (as reflected by international and regional human rights instruments)
on basic minimum standards that should be accorded to couples and families."
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Screw the ones escaping from 'human rights abuses' and other such unproven crap.
They can stay in France.
Why the hell are our relationships being lumped in with these parasites ?
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Surely the logic is simple = its all about keeping people out
I am not implying that this figure is right but what ever figure they decide on then some people will fall below it
The present government love to been seen as taking a hard line on immigration and with everyone "up in arms" with the sheer number of european people coming here then i am sure they see this as a vote winner
Lots of people living here want the gates shut for good and they dont care who that effects
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Yes, I think we all have brains enough to realise what lies behind it.
What is being discussed is the obvious unfairness of what is proposed in relation to BRITISH Citizens wishing to bring their partners from the Philippines.
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I must be typing in double dutch
Oh, thank you for the reputation, whoever sent it Im presuming (a leaf out of Arthur's book ) someone at least, is getting my drift.
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Probably a lot of people are getting your drift...just that they don't agree with you....and you sure aint going to beat them into submission.
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7th June 2012 #56
Minimum Income Proposals??
...there shouldnt be any minimum income proposal or criteria ....the visa should be given FREE as in the rest of Europe spouses/fiances.....my proposal is that why not put criteria on people already here, ..they shouldnt have kids if they dont have a job!! that will be more constructive... it should save ''us'' tax payers a few million pounds!!''Don't be serious..Be Sincere''
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Absolutely right.
THEY have more votes though...and are prone to rioting when order and reason invade their ignorant, irresponsible and tawdry little world.
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7th June 2012 #59
... too damned right, there shouldn't!
... 's long been a bone of contention with me; there OUGHT to be a system of equality, whereby Settlement Visas (following - or for the express purpose of - marriage/civil partnership) are either FREE to ALL applicants - or chargeable at an equivalent rate to EEA nationals!!
... !
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7th June 2012 #60
why dont they just pay all the hard workers a decent pay , then there'd be no problem about rescourse to public funds
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