Tanker drivers strike

[lastlid]

Yes. i worked near Liverpool St then.

[bigmarco]

Yet he evidently was neither drinking or on drugs?

Sorry I was talking there. Cannon Street was the trigger because they believed he'd been on the wacky backy.
I think Moorgate saw the introduction of fixed train stops at Terminus Platforms where if the train doesnt slow down to a certain speed when entering the platform it gets tripped and emergency brakes apply which effectively prevents that happening again.

[lastlid]

Yeah . He just kept going without slowing down....straight into the wall?. I recall it put Moorgate tube station out of action for a long time.

[lastlid]

I find the tube system fascinating. Like a swiss cheese under london..... I was down there last xmas, hasnt really changed too much since 70s. Some modern trains now and the extra line or 2 but basically the same.

[grahamw48]

Sorry I was talking there. Cannon Street was the trigger because they believed he'd been on the wacky backy.
I think Moorgate saw the introduction of fixed train stops at Terminus Platforms where if the train doesnt slow down to a certain speed when entering the platform it gets tripped and emergency brakes apply which effectively prevents that happening again.

Blimey, you'd think someone would have thought of that YEARS ago.

That leaves me quite shocked to be honest.

[lastlid]

Blimey, you'd think someone would have thought of that YEARS ago.

That leaves me quite shocked to be honest.

We tend to be more reactive than proactive when it comes to safety. Look at the Titanic. Same in the oil industry.

If one of these oil tankers had an accident in a built up area then this whole debate would be looked at in a different light.

[Dedworth]

I find the tube system fascinating. Like a swiss cheese under london..... I was down there last xmas, hasnt really changed too much since 70s. Some modern trains now and the extra line or 2 but basically the same.

Theres a good documentary / fly on the wall series THe Tube http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ube_Episode_1/

[lastlid]

Theres a good documentary / fly on the wall series THe Tube http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ube_Episode_1/

Hang on Ded, I am just watching a program on "Is Britain too complacent about the far right?"

[lastlid]

Theres a good documentary / fly on the wall series THe Tube

Hehe. Mark Davies. Is that you Big Marco?

More vomit than I remember....

Stratford looks like its going to be super busy with the Olympics and the new shopping mall. WOW about a 1000 passengers getting off on train.......dam close to my old favourites West Ham

I tend to look upon the Tube as a great example of Victorian engineering.

[Dedworth]

Hang on Ded, I am just watching a program on "Is Britain too complacent about the far right?"

[lastlid]

It was on at 10 am The Big Question with Nicky Campbell..
On the weekend that the EDL and far-right groups from across Europe are holding a rally in Denmark, Nicky Campbell asks if Britain is too complacent about the far right.

[bigmarco]

Hehe. Mark Davies. Is that you Big Marco?



I tend to look upon the Tube as a great example of Victorian engineering.

Thats true, the only problem is nobody has really invested in it since. To be fair they are doing it slowly now but it does make you wonder where all the moneys gone over the years.
Apparently Driverless trains is supposedly not far away which I must confess is a little worrying but it seems to be a reality . Hopefully I'll get another 10 years if I'm lucky.

[lastlid]

"The dispute has been going on for more than a year, with Unite saying that sub-contracting across the fuel haulage industry is undermining the pay, conditions and safety training of its drivers."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17620647

[Dedworth]

"The dispute has been going on for more than a year, with Unite saying that sub-contracting across the fuel haulage industry is undermining the pay, conditions and safety training of its drivers."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17620647

Typical unbalanced BBC report only giving one side of the story.

The Independent states :-

A spokesman for Hoyer, one of the firms involved in the dispute, said: "Given that safety is a mantra for our business, we believe there are some fundamental areas of agreement between ourselves and Unite over the need to harmonise health and safety standards across the industry."

[lastlid]

Chinese Electric Cars - BBC Report

"Small electric vehicles are gaining popularity in China, despite their top speeds of only 30 km/h.

Thousands of the three wheelers are being sold at between $600 and $1500.

Users are not required to have a driving license as, according to current regulations, they are not classified as a car.

Eric Camara reports"


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17780515

[grahamw48]

I can see those being popular sharing the bus lanes.

The Sinclair C5 was a bit before its time I suppose...and also a useless pest to other road users.

[London_Manila]

More lazy, workshy reprobates trying to hold the country to ransom!

The tanker drivers are very well paid, but they say the proposed strike is over conditions and health and safety. And yet this is the sort of genius that works as a tanker driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5M--0CSZ1I

BP is known as BLOOD PRESSURE amongst their own drivers due to how many loads they have to do in a day, most of these tanker drivers are far from workshy and are really pushed to the limit by their companies

[lastlid]

BP is known as BLOOD PRESSURE amongst their own drivers due to how many loads they have to do in a day, most of these tanker drivers are far from workshy and are really pushed to the limit by their companies

I have to say that I have seen that side of the business, first hand.

[grahamw48]

Rather like the parcel delivery van drivers being expected to rush about like dangerous lunatics.

An area of work where H&S COULD usefully intervene, because competition is causing a lack of safety and high levels of stress.

If the customers all have to pay an extra 50p per package...so be it, if it means that YOUR family isn't in a head-on with a delivery van, or every time the parcel man knocks on your door and then leaves a card because he hasn't got time to wait for you to answer it.