Things are desperate when people prefer immigration limbo to deportation

[joebloggs]

Let's call him Samir. For ages, the immigration authorities didn't know for certain where he was from. He has no passport, no papers, no evidence of his nationality that they can establish. The one thing they know beyond doubt is that he is not British and has no right to remain here, which is why he has been sitting in the Immigration Deportation Centre in Colnbrook near Heathrow for nearly three and a half years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...n-7575735.html

[grahamw48]

Yeah.....nice to know that we're paying for these parasites out of our taxes !

[Terpe]

Maybe in their minds they believe that just another day and they will be released.
I cannot imagine anything else that drives them on this way.

[stevie c]

Maybe in their minds they believe that just another day and they will be released.
I cannot imagine anything else that drives them on this way.

Exactly....You hit the nail on the head peter

[Dedworth]

Surely these long drawn-out deportations, with countless expensive appeals, are cruel; and a swifter resolution would be fairer to the taxpayer and the desperate migrant alike.[/I]

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...n-7575735.html

How about a bullet in the back of his head - that would save the long suffering taxpayer a fortune

[Terpe]

How about a bullet in the back of his head - that would save the long suffering taxpayer a fortune

Dedworth, your a much smarter person than that.

The immigration control systems that have been in place have so far have been woefully lacking regarding who is allowed to enter the UK and who is allowed to remain in the UK. But at least they do exist.

The rules on dealing with those who are already in UK and clearly in breach of the immigration rules (ie illegally) are virtually non-existent.

I guess that's why the laywers and the lawmakers are able to play out their highly lucrative games by ensuring that the UKBA remain impotent and unable to do a job of enforcement, by the very few and very limited rules/laws available to them.

[joebloggs]

Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules HC 321 was laid before Parliament on 6 February 2008. HC 321 amends the general grounds for refusal of an immigration application.

In some cases rule-breaking migrants could be banned from applying for entry to the UK for 10 years. The results will be:

• [li]Mandatory refusal of an application where false representations have made or false documents used, whether or not material to the application and whether or not the applicant knew of the falsehood.[/li]
  
  
  [li]Re-entry bans for those who have overstayed, breached their conditions of leave (e.g. a student working over 20 hrs a week in term time). [/li]

Those who leave within 28 days at their own expense will escape the ban.

Over stayers making a voluntary departure at their own expense face a 1 year ban, during which any application for entry clearance will be refused, rising to 5 years if the departure was at the expense of the State and 10 years if the person was removed or deported, or used deception.

In summary, the changes to the general grounds for refusal are:

[list]
[li]From 29 February 2008 refusal of entry clearance or leave to enter, cancellation of leave or refusal to vary leave will be mandatory where false representations have been made or false documents submitted, whether or not these are material to the application and whether or not the applicant knew that such representations were being made or documents submitted. [/li]


[li]From 1 April 2008 for those who have previously overstayed, breached their conditions of stay, entered illegally or used deception, refusal of a fresh entry clearance or leave to enter application will be mandatory for fixed periods – except those who have done no more than overstay for 28 days or less. The fixed periods are 12 months from when the person made a voluntary departure at their own expense, 5 years from when the person made a voluntary departure that was paid for and 10 years from when the person was removed or deported. In the case of a person who used deception in an entry clearance application, the fixed period will be for 10 years from the time of that deception.[/li]

i wonder how many people have actually been banned, if anyone

[Terpe]

Yep. very nice words.
How about those illegals who are currently detained. Where is the law that says send them home now?
If we have laws that say we cannot send them anywhere without proper documentation why are we holding them at great taxpayer expense?
How about those illegals who get picked up by UKBA and told to report to the office next week but then get released back into the population. Do you believe they will report?
How about the illegals that are caught at the borders hiding in trucks, where is the law to send them home? Why are they sent back to the 'Jungle'.

The answers, in my opinion, are with the lawmakers and the existing laws. It should be easier and fairer to control 'at the point of entry' but it's not.
Why?