Suarez is a 'disgrace' - Ferguson

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Sir Alex Ferguson brands Luis Suarez a 'disgrace' for refusing to shake Patrice Evra's hand before the match.



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[andy222]

Well Fergie would say that would,nt he. I dont blame suarez. There is no ruling he has to shake his hand.

[KeithD]

The media seem to be making a bigger deal of this than it is.... Does Fergie not remember Cantona?

I don't see the point of a handshake, they do it, then try to break each others legs in the match anyway .... and if you don't like someone why the hell would you want to shake hands with them?

If a work partner had grassed me up and I was suspended for 8 weeks on a charge that was a load of crap based on my culture then I would NEVER shake his hand.

[grahamw48]

These childish idiots need to grow up, and earn their money.

Whether they like it or not they are role models for lots of kids.

[andy222]

I agree with both of you.. But racism should not be tolerated. If the Black frenchman cant take it he should go back home. .

[joebloggs]

Well Fergie would say that would,nt he. I dont blame suarez. There is no ruling he has to shake his hand.

i think fergie said that both teams agreed their would be a handshake, but Suarez does what he wants

he should grow up stop being a and be thankful he gets paid so well for kicking a ball around

[andy222]

Sour grapes by fergie in my opinion. I dont know exactly what suarez said to evra. But suarez is a great player and they should let their feet and the ball do the talking. Do you think a handshake would make everything right?. I dont. Like the boss said fergie forgot about what cantana did so he should keep his mouth shut. By the way I am not a liverpool fan.

[joebloggs]

i dont think suarez is in the same league as Cantona

what did Cantona do ? . you mean kicking some loud mouth yob

[andy222]

Its still intolerable behaviour and what ban did cantana get?

[joebloggs]

Its still intolerable behaviour and what ban did cantana get?

if someone was at you, i'm sure you do the same, Cantona was the victim as was Evra.

[Arthur Little]

"Suarez" a disgrace ... all the fuss everyone seems to be making of this incident ... when there are far more important things to worry about!

[joebloggs]

"Suarez" a disgrace ... all the fuss everyone seems to be making of this incident ... when there are far more important things to worry about!

like whats for tea

[Arthur Little]

like whats for tea

... precisement!

[andy222]

Something from the al le carte I think.

[grahamw48]

I thought the Suarez Crisis was ages ago.

[KeithD]

Saurez called Evra 'negro' ..... how is being called a river racist?? If someone called me 'mersey' I'd take it they meant I'm a low life dirty thicko piece of scum.... which would be just about right

[joebloggs]

didn't saurez deny that he called him anything at first, then changed his story

it could be worse, could have called him a scouser

[Neu75]

i dont think suarez is in the same league as Cantona

what did Cantona do ? . you mean kicking some loud mouth yob

Spot on
Racism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere at any time

[grahamw48]

I agree.

A black day for football.

[joebloggs]

Comment: Suarez and Evra are a microcosm of British multiculturalism

The most widespread and dangerous racism in British society takes place within immigrant groups.

Mainstream British culture - and by that I mean the white working and middle-classes - has taken roughly 50 years to deal with its racism. From Enoch Powell to Stephen Lawrence, it has taken a deep look inside itself and come to some respectable conclusions. It hasn't all been plain sailing - and we're not done yet - but in general outright racism has been hammered down to a minimal level. For this, we must thank media interest, the social pariah status of racists and a curiously egalitarian element to the British personality.

Similar forces do not always act in immigrant communities. Within and between immigrant groups, racism is a day-to-day event. Luis Suarez's use of the word 'negro' was, he said, an acceptable term in Latin American communities. There's some truth to that. It’s even used between lovers, in a manner which sounds odd to western ears. But in a combative situation, it is perfectly capable of being an offensive racist term.

In fact, the use of the term 'negrito' to describe blacks has a derogatory element to it. The suffix '-ito' designates something small and cute. It is often added to children's names until they are grown up, for instance. At the heart of its use, which is extremely common in Latin communities, is a subtle but telling lack of respect for black people.

In Britain, the Afro-Caribbean community is often the subject of racism from other immigrants. Those from the Indian sub-continent are very often suspicious of Afro-Caribbeans. Indian or Pakistani fathers are rarely impressed when their daughters marry white Englishmen, but they are horrified if they become involved with black Englishmen. Similar views exist in Middle-Eastern and Chinese communities. The same rules, it hardly needs mentioning, rarely pertain to their sons.

Prejudice exists within racial groups as well . Plenty of higher caste Indians in the UK hold and enforce their prejudice against lower casts on a daily basis.

read more here .. http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-an...tish-multicult

[Neu75]

Thankfully prejudice is being stamped out all over our nation
One match at a time in the case of football.
Racism is being kicked out little by little everywhere also.
Nothing can stop this change as most people don't want racism in their lives, no matter what their ethnicity is

[lastlid]

"The real villain of the piece has been Kenny Dalglish. He let down Liverpool, the country and himself by his tepid response. By excusing Suarez — even yesterday — and attempting to pass the buck to the media he has shown he is incapable of behaving responsibly when politics touches him. Instead, he fell back on his default position of supreme loyalty to club and players. In sport that is usually commendable, but political debates are too important to be left to tribal emotions. Suarez needs to go."

Quite a good viewpoint on the whole topic and the broader topic on Immigrant Britain:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/tal...162900308.html

Looks like the owners have finally stepped in.......

[joebloggs]

yes dalglish made me when he lost his temper what a

[lastlid]

I wonder what Kenny is actually saying away from the cameras / media......?

[andy222]

Exactky laslid totally agree with what your thinking. Suarez was forced to apologise. Do you think he meant it?

[KeithD]

It's always the same with Fergie & Wenger whenever they have a player in trouble, they get the full support and the manager seen nothing

[Neu75]

It's always the same with Fergie & Wenger whenever they have a player in trouble, they get the full support and the manager seen nothing

Dalglish too, but at least he apologised later.