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    Hi my name is Andy from the midlands. I have just joined here and read some of the posts. Some characters on here and its great. Been to the philippines 4 times now and love the place. Im getting married there soon and hoping to bring her over here until i retire (if this government allows me to).. I suppose all of you have seen the proposed changes on the UK BORDER AGENCY website?


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    which changes
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    welcome to this friendly forum Andy & congratulations to your upcoming wedding in the Phils.

    Haven't read or heard the proposed changes that u mentioned yet. But whatever it is, don't let words take u down...enjoy your journey with your wife to be.
    If you can't say something nice. SHUT UP!. Simple.


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    Thanks Maria its a stressful time to say the least with all the documentation we require but we will get there. Thanks again. By the way I love the phils.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    By the way I love the phils.
    If you can't say something nice. SHUT UP!. Simple.


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    Really looking forward to boracay yipeeeeeeeeee.


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    oh surely u will enjoy the sun, sea & the sand.
    The thought is, you're with your loved one
    If you can't say something nice. SHUT UP!. Simple.


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    yes its the second time we have been there. Oh and congratulations on passing your test.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    which changes
    Which PARTICULAR changes?? ... they ALWAYS seem to be implementing changes of one kind or another!


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    ... anyway, Andy ... to the filipino/uk forum, and goodluck with your plans.


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    Thanks mate. The proposed changes are they are going to stipulate a amout of money which you can support your spouse when they come here. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/ne...llingmigration. There is other proposals too.


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    Basically they are making it more difficult for foreigners to get into the country.


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    In short, the government’s proposals include:
    · defining more clearly what constitutes a genuine and continuing marriage, to help identify sham and forced marriages;
    · introducing a new minimum income threshold for sponsors of partners and dependents, to ensure that family migrants are adequately supported as a basis for integration;
    · extending the probationary period before partners can apply for settlement in the UK from 2 years to 5 years, to test that relationships are genuine and to encourage integration into British life;
    · requiring partners and adult dependents aged under 65 to demonstrate that they can understand everyday English (B1 level on the Common European Framework for Languages) when they apply for settlement;
    · exploring the case for making 'sham' a lawful impediment to marriage in England and Wales, and for giving the authorities the power to delay a marriage where sham is suspected;
    · working closely with local authorities to ensure that vulnerable people are not forced into marriage;
    · reviewing the full right of appeal for family visitor visas, and inviting views on whether there are circumstances (beyond race discrimination and human rights grounds) in which an appeal right should be retained.


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    Read on lastlid. Thats not all of it.


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    ok lastlid i have read it. I agree with it but its 30 years too late.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    · extending the probationary period before partners can apply for settlement in the UK from 2 years to 5 years, to test that relationships are genuine and to encourage integration into British life;
    So WHAT'S new about the proposals you've listed? most of THEM are ALREADY in force - apart from the one I've quoted above?

    ... oh well ... if that one's implemented, it'll allow married couples 3 more years to save up for ILR!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    So WHAT'S new about the proposals you've listed? ... most of THEM are ALREADY in force - apart from the one I've quoted above?
    Arthur, I posted the list as I was passed it by someone that I know, but in response to Andy's above post. Hopefully, crossfingers, my good wife's visa will have been well and truly approved before things get a little more difficult.

    These are just proposals just now eh?


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    Good for you lastlid. But these will be in force when my wife wants to come here. I dont know how i will stand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    yes its the second time we have been there. Oh and congratulations on passing your test.
    that's great...
    thank u...passed my test last Sep 2010 at the Wolverhampton Public Library.
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    oh well im only a year behind with my congratulations.. Sorry


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    don't be....was just wondering if you're talking to me
    If you can't say something nice. SHUT UP!. Simple.


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    Yes I was Maria.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lastlid View Post
    Arthur, I posted the list as I was passed it by someone that I know, but in response to Andy's above post. Hopefully, crossfingers, my good wife's visa will have been well and truly approved before things get a little more difficult.

    These are just proposals just now eh?
    Yes ... I know. And you're absolutely right ... they ARE just proposals, and will have NO bearing on your good lady's application. ... NONE whatsoever!

    But such measures - regardless of how unpopular they're likely to prove with the likes of us - have a nasty habit of being approved remarkably quickly ... whenever there's government involvement. So we're indebted to you for posting them here ... since doubtless it won't be too long before they do affect subsequent applicants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Yes ... I know. And you're absolutely right ... they ARE just proposals, and will have NO bearing whatsoever on your wife's application.
    Are you a gambling man Arthur? I bet you it will have a bearing on my future wifes application. We will wait till the closing date on this matter which is 6th October and we will see. Dont get me wrong I have a job and a monthly income but lets see what limit the government put on it.


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    they are proposed changes, and no doubt there will be court cases challenging any changes, then there is always article 8 , the gov has a record on winning court cases ..

    the findings from a High Court judicial review should be published this month concerning the English language test because there are claims it contravenes their rights to a family life and is discriminatory. also I'm sure there is a case concerning the minimum age being raised to 21.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ourt-told.html
    http://www.filipinouk.com/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=870&dateline=1270312908


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    Welcome Andy, and good luck with your other half's application


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    Thanks englishman much appreciated. And thanks to joebloggs for his imput. But this government will do as it pleases you just wait and see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andy222 View Post
    Thanks englishman much appreciated. And thanks to joebloggs for his imput. But this government will do as it pleases you just wait and see.
    ... as does EVERY successive government - we hardly need a crystal ball to tell us that!


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