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    David Cameron has broken pledge to support family values

    One of his election promises, and he actually seems to be making things worse

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ly-values.html


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    not only that the start up of breaking up the nhs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walaytawo View Post
    One of his election promises, and he actually seems to be making things worse

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ly-values.html
    as they say " never trust a tory "


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    Hi all,
    I have also been told but cannot yet confirm that they have cut the extra heating allowance to the older pensioners!
    As always look after themselves is their main intrest
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    The ship has already sunk I dont believe a word of Party Polotics


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    Tory; defintion, probaby from irish torai meaning " robber"


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    Quote Originally Posted by mickcant View Post
    Hi all,
    I have also been told but cannot yet confirm that they have cut the extra heating allowance to the older pensioners!

    Mick.
    Yeah ... that is correct! But us "young" uns'll be alright, Mick. ... nearly said "Jack"!


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    Well if the previous government hadn't spent money they never had we wouldn't be having to make severe cutbacks now. Our deficit is pretty much the same as Greece's and look what happened to them!!! Ireland & Portugal as well. If Labour had got in and not made these severe cuts themselves we would have been approaching the IMF by now.... oh... and I support Labour, but voted Tory last time, and agree with what Cameron is doing to get ours finances sorted. Simply put, their is no other way of doing it.
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    I voted Labour in the past but Tory this time for the same reasons as Keith,we can't have/spend what we aint got and as tough as that is that's the score


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    Plenty of other ways to make cuts, but no, as always the little man has to make the sacrifices


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Well if the previous government hadn't spent money they never had we wouldn't be having to make severe cutbacks now. Our deficit is pretty much the same as Greece's and look what happened to them!!! Ireland & Portugal as well. If Labour had got in and not made these severe cuts themselves we would have been approaching the IMF by now.... oh... and I support Labour, but voted Tory last time, and agree with what Cameron is doing to get ours finances sorted. Simply put, their is no other way of doing it.
    ok lets start with robbing the old aged ... for starters... but if i had a silver spoon in my gob as a child, or brought up in a posh house as poll tax was brought in id be happy too n vote for your lot.. but heyyy its only rob the poor " tory"..
    obviously u cant rememember wot that person did to the north of " england" a dictator does not have to be a person it can also be a city.. london does this quite clearly it dictates every thing.. the north is blatantly robbed as always

    id love to see a fair n equall england and be so proud of it too, but im afraid that it will never be as long as their is a tory in sight.. we all kno wot a tory government is... dont we...?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walaytawo View Post
    Plenty of other ways to make cuts, but no, as always the little man has to make the sacrifices
    No sacrifices from those Saviours of The Proletariat/ I'm Alright Jack's Blair and Brown who got us into this mess, what are they up to nowadays ? Oh yes Bottler's sniffing around the World Bank, IMF etc for a £1 mill pa job and Blair is still keeping his hand in as "Middle East Peace Envoy"


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    You don't really expect those at the top of the food chain to suffer do you? Those pair should be tried for war crimes imo, but will never happen.

    The mantra of, "we must make cuts" really has hypnotized the nation. Simple but effective mind control


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    Quote Originally Posted by branno View Post
    as they say " never trust a tory "
    I dont trust any of them, they never mentioned changing the NHS in their manifesto.
    Taxed from cradle to grave and then they come after what you have left behind.
    Cost me 30p to take a leak at Liverpool Street station the other day, put me off my ability to pass water


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    30p to take a pee How much does a dump cost there these days?


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    i just noticed, lots of sour grapes here with the British government..i'm just wondering why lots of guys here keep on complaining about your government yet you all want to bring your wives/fiancees/gfs there..so what good would that be to the females? Remember, our government here in the Philippines are corrupt too..compared to our country, your country is very rich..we dont even have free NHS here..but i can say there are still lots of Pinoys that are proud of our country and would want to go back here...if there are countries where you can have all the pleasures in life, why not transfer and live there? just my humble observance


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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    i just noticed, lots of sour grapes here with the British government..i'm just wondering why lots of guys here keep on complaining about your government yet you all want to bring your wives/fiancees/gfs there..so what good would that be to the females? Remember, our government here in the Philippines are corrupt too..compared to our country, your country is very rich..we dont even have free NHS here..but i can say there are still lots of Pinoys that our proud of our country and would want to go back here...if there are countries where you can have all the pleasures in life, why not transfer and live there? just my humble observance
    so richly appreciated too... if i may say its a great thing you have said also.. if i may say... we just love to moan and demonstrate some times too. phewwwww lol welcome to englandddddddd x


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    I don't want to take anybody to the UK That seems quite a weird concept to a lot of people, that I'm not here to bag the bride and take her back to Blighty.

    I'm convinced all governments are corrupt, yet at least here I'm not being robbed through extortianate taxes. There is no perfect country, but this'll do for now


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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    i just noticed, lots of sour grapes here with the British government..i'm just wondering why lots of guys here keep on complaining about your government yet you all want to bring your wives/fiancees/gfs there..so what good would that be to the females? Remember, our government here in the Philippines are corrupt too..compared to our country, your country is very rich..we dont even have free NHS here..but i can say there are still lots of Pinoys that are proud of our country and would want to go back here...if there are countries where you can have all the pleasures in life, why not transfer and live there? just my humble observance
    Well said Raynaputi


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    most of us are proud to be just not proud of our politicians

    its ok to blame brown and blair but just look further back and blame thatcher the milk snatcher, they are all the same
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    We are over £800 Billion in debt, that works out at around £15,000 for each adult in the UK. Those who don't agree with the cuts, I hope you'll be paying back your share straight away so we don't need cuts

    The NHS has wasted £Billions over the last decade and needs to be totally reorganised, and the fact that the government is in consultation with all concerned is a good thing. Labour never stopped to do such things.... anyway, I get free prescriptions in Wales
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    I get free prescriptions in Wales
    maybe you could start paying back your £15,000 and start paying for yor prescriptions
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    maybe you could start paying back your £15,000 and start paying for yor prescriptions

    yes scouser keith i hope you've paid your £15k and for your prescriptions to

    well i'm sure when your local trust or private companies start importing meds from dodgy companies to save money you dont go

    how can a private company do a job/employ some one, i take it their not a charity and are out to make a profit, be cheaper than the trust employing someone directly ??
    unless they pay them less, or cur corners, you pay peanuts you get monkeys
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    How many of you have read the proposed NHS legislation? None I bet. You're going by media reports. If you read the summary you'll see it's a long list of changes with the vast majority very good. It's just the odd one the media is hyping up, and yet those are in consultation and possibly will never happen.
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    A nurse I picked up recently explained that there were too many admin staff and not enough ground staff-they got the money but spent it foolishly


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    A nurse I picked up recently explained that there were too many admin staff and not enough ground staff-they got the money but spent it foolishly
    yes you should have told her to save money and get a bus les




    i'm joking

    what admin staff ??? where are they

    my wife worked in our NHS local trust for 5yrs, the manager didn't have admin staff, he was th manager for heamatology, health and safety officer as well other roles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    How many of you have read the proposed NHS legislation? None I bet. You're going by media reports. If you read the summary you'll see it's a long list of changes with the vast majority very good. It's just the odd one the media is hyping up, and yet those are in consultation and possibly will never happen.
    not media reports, facts from my misses, the department had to offer the work out they did to private companies

    camerons gone back on other things he said and dumped some of his ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete/London View Post
    Cost me 30p to take a leak at Liverpool Street station the other day, put me off my ability to pass water
    Yes ... hellish that folk should "NEED" to "cough up" 30p for one pee ain't it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Yes ... hellish that folk should "NEED" to "cough up" 30p for one pee ain't it!
    Water rates being what they are, we're in the invidious position of having to pay for our intake ... and then being charged again for our output!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Water rates being what they are, we're in the invidious position of having to pay for our intake ... and then being charged again for our output!
    And we pay more for the output as we have to pay "them" to remove Gods gift of water (rain)
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