*** Immigration crackdown?? ***

[keithAngel]

And that perfectly describes your mate.

Its got nothing to do with his beliefs. Its his forthright, uncompromising views.

I only said Deadworth was the member Id most like to meet Gwap not that we were mates

[Pete/London]

I see the police snipers are taking over key vantage points on the Royal wedding day.

All due to threats to cause disruption. This time they will be crushed, the no nonsense British public will not stand for it.

You can guess what mob are involved. The same ones who allow teachers to beat there kids senseless then aim thereouhatred at the same people who feed and clothe them (via the broken welfare system) us, the British.

I was taught by them at school, they were awful and spiteful,

thank God there are not a lot of Irish nuns teaching anymore

[fred]

short speech from Winston Churchill,
>> delivered by him in 1899

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its
votaries!
>> Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
>> hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
>> effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly
>> systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
>> of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
>> A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement,
>> the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
>> every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
>> as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
>> slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
>> men.
>> Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
>> No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being
>> moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has
>> already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at
>> every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
>> strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly
>> struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the
>> civilization of ancient Rome."
>>
>> Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol.II,
>> pages 248-50 London )

[Jimbojac]

Ahhh sorry if i offended with the ** in place of a known swear word i honestly did not know the rules here, sorry.

[aposhark]

short speech from Winston Churchill,
>> delivered by him in 1899

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its
votaries!
>> Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as
>> hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The
>> effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly
>> systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity
>> of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
>> A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement,
>> the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law
>> every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either
>> as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of
>> slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among
>> men.
>> Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
>> No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being
>> moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has
>> already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at
>> every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
>> strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly
>> struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the
>> civilization of ancient Rome."
>>
>> Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol.II,
>> pages 248-50 London )

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

[aposhark]

Who deleted my post?

Explain the reason.

[fred]

Who deleted my post?

Explain the reason.

What post?

[Ako Si Jamie]

The religious one.

[les_taxi]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

He is entitled to post what he likes
Never stopped you

[joebloggs]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

aposhark dont tell me someone can't post quotes from one of the most famous Brits of all time, what part of it offends you ?

[fred]

1899 says it all.

Dear me, what is happening to this forum when mods are posting things like this..........

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.

[les_taxi]

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.

Totally agree one of the greatest men of his time

[joebloggs]

but the influence of
>> the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

now i do agree with that, but for all religions, they've done more damage than good

Catholic priest on a mission to convert as many as he can to Christianity meets an Eskimo and explains Jesus christ to him:

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why the hell did you tell me?"

[grahamw48]

now i do agree with that, but for all religions, they've done more damage than good

Catholic priest on a mission to convert as many as he can to Christianity meets an Eskimo and explains Jesus christ to him:

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why the hell did you tell me?"

Hahaha ! Well put.

It is good to have some knowledge of religious beliefs though, because then you can be on your guard against the brainwashing.

Invasion of the bodysnatchers is the way I see it.

[Walaytawo]

Hahaha ! Well put.

It is good to have some knowledge of religious beliefs though, because then you can be on your guard against the brainwashing.

All forms of brainwashing? Doesn't seem to be much of a detterent against media mind control

[aposhark]

What post?

The post that was copied into post #80

[aposhark]

he was a young soldier and journalist when he wrote this speech.
It probably sets out the current views of many but expressed in the
wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English
language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of
the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary
politician and statesman, a great war leader and Prime Minister, to
whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time.
One of my personal heroes who I am proud to quote either here or anywhere else I choose.

I am an admirer of Winston Churchill too.
I just fail to see what relevance that post had to do with anything.
It was old and reflected the times then, not now in our multi-cultural society

[fred]

The post that was copied into post #80

I have no idea what happened to it..
Gremlins I expect.

[fred]

I am an admirer of Winston Churchill too.
I just fail to see what relevance that post had to do with anything.
It was old and reflected the times then, not now in our multi-cultural society

Never felt I witnessed a true multi cultural society develop in the way it was presented to us in the late 70`s and 80`s.. Only cities divided by racially segregated towns..
Our old family`s house in North London contained the last white family in our street that were prepared to put up with other culture being stuffed down their throats day in day out.
Last time I had a look for old times sake the place looked like a Nigerian and Asian ghetto.
Even the Jamaican s and Italians had left!!
So much for racial integration!
We moved into the suburbs where I must admit the multi cultural experiment seemed to be working a little more efficiently and people of all cultures seemed to mix more readily..
Quite a few Asians,Africans,Indians along with indigenous locals that all seemed to get on really well..
Now as a community they are all moaning together about the European open border policies,Illegal immigrants and just about every subject that causes friction around the country..(and this forum)

Personally,I no longer give a toss as I have no longer a reason to complain and whine...
I`m long gone and I have no intention of going back.
Since living here I have had much time to reflect,and the speech above is very relevant..To me anyway..

As a foreigner here in the Philippines,I always give the up most respect to my hosts and in turn,the locals always seem happy and appreciative to see how easily I have integrated into their culture.
This is not the case however with every foreigner that has moved here over the years...
Filipino`s have various methods of dealing with that type of guest..Im sure you would disapprove.

Im not here to agree or disagree or argue with you or anyone else about the views I have formed over the years about any subject and thus my last post in this thread..

Cheers... Fred.

(moderation duties excluded)

[Walaytawo]

A multi-cultural society only works when those coming from abroad want to integrate. Sadly, in the UK this is not the case a lot of the time.