Which is best: Fiance visa or Spouse Visa?

[Arthur Little]

Hi

A slightly different slant on the same topic. Which of a spouse and fiancee visa is more likely to be awarded by the UKBA? My thinking is that with the spouse visa there is more evidence of a genuine relationship if a couple are already married, especially if the wedding is in the Philippines and all the family is there.

Is my thinking correct?

Thankyou.

Hi, here. Logically your thinking is correct. However - as has been pointed out - in BOTH cases, applicants need to satisfy the Entry Clearance Officer that theirs is a genuine relationship. So in that sense, chances of success are more or less eeksy~peeksy.

Financially, however, marrying in the Phils is a lot less expensive ... not least, in that it overrides the necessity to fork-out the same amount twice within a comparatively short space of time ... because, no sooner has the fiance(e) arrived in the UK, than arrangements require to be made for (what is likely to turn out to be a much more costly wedding) to ensure that he/she marries within 6 months ... then afterwards apply for Further Leave to Remain.

[Maria B]

As for A,B,C Q's I will go for Spouse visa A, easy for immigration as She/he spouse already B, less cost she can go work once she landed in UK and just about 2 years for ILR, unlike for fiancce visa need to marry in 6 months and had to apply for FLR again then ILR,(twice cost) C, a I said easy passing in immigration

At the end of the day, its your decision both of you, We are just giving you some idea

[lastlid]

Not really. If you have a true relationship then both are easy to prove.

Hi all thanks.
I query the above as I think intent can be hard to prove. Maybe it isnt. But I have just posted a box of paperwork to my wife with all of the "evidence" but I just wonder if it can truly be construed as genuine. I know that it is. But to the scrutineers I wonder how easy or difficult it is to prove that a relationship is genuine in terms of a fiancee or a spouse visa. That said I felt that marriage, in the Philippines might be more far reaching evidence than just an intention to get married.
I have sent a heap of photos (46) of us both and heaps of YM logs etc etc but how do the scrutineers decide if they are genuine or not?

I am being a bit paranoid, i think. But it must be a hard call, sometimes for the UKBA folk to make a decision?

Cheers for now.

[lastlid]

all depends on your evidence, but not much difference btw them, most people get their visa first time which ever of the 2 visa's they apply for.

Hi Joe, thanks. I noticed that you said "most people". Do you know what kind of percentage? I have never seen such a stat anywhwere.

[Arthur Little]

... intent CAN be difficult to prove ... most especially if a couple marry within a short time of meeting one another. But, while by definition, LDRs are not always easy to sustain, the fact that you've made the effort of getting to know your partner, through travelling all the way to her homeland and supplying the evidence you've mentioned - presumably with lots photographs of the pair of you together - is likely to work in your favour.

Bear in mind too, that an ECO will, in every case, need to come up with good, strong reason(s) to justify separating a husband and wife.

... that's about IT, basically. Good luck!

[lastlid]

Sorry Arthur,

What is an LDR?

Many thanks.

[Arthur Little]

Sorry Arthur,

What is an LDR?

Many thanks.

... 'Long Distance Relationship'.

[lastlid]

Yes. Thanks. The penny dropped quite soon after my posting.
Thanks Arthur for the feedback.
Cheers

[Arthur Little]

Yes. Thanks. The penny dropped quite soon after my posting.
Thanks Arthur for the feedback.
Cheers

My pleasure ... it took ME a wee while to get used to some of the terminology when I first joined. But you'll soon pick it up - the longer you're here - as I did myself.

[Terpe]

Hi Joe, thanks. I noticed that you said "most people". Do you know what kind of percentage? I have never seen such a stat anywhwere.

There are statistics. The Home Office (and UKBA) publish their statistics and it is in the public domain.
lastlid, have you ever looked for UKBA stats?

Just as an overall indicator, from 2007-2010 the refusal rate from all the settlement visa applications made from outside UK is 8%

[Terpe]

Hi all thanks.
I query the above as I think intent can be hard to prove. Maybe it isnt. But I have just posted a box of paperwork to my wife with all of the "evidence" but I just wonder if it can truly be construed as genuine. I know that it is. But to the scrutineers I wonder how easy or difficult it is to prove that a relationship is genuine in terms of a fiancee or a spouse visa. That said I felt that marriage, in the Philippines might be more far reaching evidence than just an intention to get married.
I have sent a heap of photos (46) of us both and heaps of YM logs etc etc but how do the scrutineers decide if they are genuine or not?

I am being a bit paranoid, i think. But it must be a hard call, sometimes for the UKBA folk to make a decision?

Cheers for now.

It's true to say that these things can often appear to be described as a 'hard to call'.
However the ECO's do undertake considerable specialist training and spend quite a lot of time 'under-the-wing' of experienced people. Doing this type of work every day soon equips you with a 'certain feel' and understanding for the job.

[KeithD]

Hi Joe, thanks. I noticed that you said "most people". Do you know what kind of percentage? I have never seen such a stat anywhwere.

Those who following the info on this site, about 98%

[lastlid]

There are statistics. The Home Office (and UKBA) publish their statistics and it is in the public domain.
lastlid, have you ever looked for UKBA stats?

Just as an overall indicator, from 2007-2010 the refusal rate from all the settlement visa applications made from outside UK is 8%

No. I confess I haven't seen such stats. Thankyou.
Cause for optimism! Thanks.

[lastlid]

Okay. Thanks. I would find it difficult but to the trained eye, much easier....
Thanks.

[McGregor03]

Hi everyone.Am a filipina and am happily engaged to a scottish.
I'll be applying my fiancee visa soon (next month)..I just don't know what are the documents that I need to gather and how long will it take to have my visa..
I just wanna be with my partner as soon as I can coz I miss him so much and I can't afford to be far from him for too long...
I will really appreciate it if someone can ans.my Q's..

Thank u...xx

[KeithD]

Have you tried looking on this forum? http://filipinaroses.com/forumdispla...NT-INFORMATION

[Steve.r]

Hi everyone.Am a filipina and am happily engaged to a scottish.
I'll be applying my fiancee visa soon (next month)..I just don't know what are the documents that I need to gather and how long will it take to have my visa..
I just wanna be with my partner as soon as I can coz I miss him so much and I can't afford to be far from him for too long...
I will really appreciate it if someone can ans.my Q's..

Thank u...xx

You have made the same post in 4 different areas of the forum, please be a little more selective and not post the same over and over again.

Welcome btw