No sex before marriage??

[jakeob]

Hello gang!

I have got a new ladyfriend in mindano, we have been getting along great and decided yesterday that we would concerntrate on each other and not chat to others, as she was very concerned that she was one of many.

I told her i could possibly visit her around Christmas time if things continue to go well, then she told me that if i visit her there will be no sex before marriage. She tells me shes stil a virgin and only ever had 1 other boyfrind in her life.

Although i admire her ideals, i feel a bit dissapointed. I have been reading that a cleaver person will get to know his future wife, very very well, before marriage is decided, even making multiple trips over there.

Is this the norm???

[Northerner]

Pretty much the norm, yeah. From what I have read at least, but there is no golden rule and the society of the Philippines is changing a lot. But, men who go to the Philippines for sex usually end up in a girlie bar, those who travel for a relationship will need to deal with the whole Virginity thing.

After all, would you (knowingly) marry a bar girl from Angeles City?

[rayofLight]

Hello gang!

I have got a new ladyfriend in mindano, we have been getting along great and decided yesterday that we would concerntrate on each other and not chat to others, as she was very concerned that she was one of many.

I told her i could possibly visit her around Christmas time if things continue to go well, then she told me that if i visit her there will be no sex before marriage. She tells me shes stil a virgin and only ever had 1 other boyfrind in her life.

Although i admire her ideals, i feel a bit dissapointed. I have been reading that a cleaver person will get to know his future wife, very very well, before marriage is decided, even making multiple trips over there.

Is this the norm???

NORMAL in the \philippines....not ony a tradition,,,,but important to ourselves,,,

[trader dave]

any decent girl will say that remember she has never even met you yet

at the moment you are both talking to others

collect then select they call it

where abouts is she from ?

[jakeob]

Pretty much the norm, yeah. From what I have read at least, but there is no golden rule and the society of the Philippines is changing a lot. But, men who go to the Philippines for sex usually end up in a girlie bar, those who travel for a relationship will need to deal with the whole Virginity thing.

After all, would you (knowingly) marry a bar girl from Angeles City?

Hi Northener!,,

No! but we could be great friends LOL

[Tawi2]

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[jakeob]

we have been chatting for a couple of weeks, and shes from Panaon, Misamis Occidental,

[Sophie]

[QUOTE=jakeob;168831]Hello gang!

I have got a new ladyfriend in mindano, we have been getting along great and decided yesterday that we would concerntrate on each other and not chat to others, as she was very concerned that she was one of many.

I told her i could possibly visit her around Christmas time if things continue to go well, then she told me that if i visit her there will be no sex before marriage. She tells me shes stil a virgin and only ever had 1 other boyfrind in her life.

Although i admire her ideals, i feel a bit dissapointed. I have been reading that a cleaver person will get to know his future wife, very very well, before marriage is decided, even making multiple trips over there.

Is this the norm???[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's the norm, although there are a few exceptions, it all depends on the girl really.

[KeithD]

One of the main cultural differences. The Philippines are still very religious, while those of us in the UK are used to a different slapper every Friday night

[trader dave]

Friend of mine married a lady from a girly-bar N and Dave will know this,but most of you mightnt but it isnt unknown for even everyday normal girls to do a little "Freelancing" over there How long have you known her Jake,very unusual for a genuine Virgin to mention her sexual status early on in a relationship or even at all as its not the sort of thing to crop up in conversation is it,I have known several women who said they were virgins,then changed it to "Virgins for westerners only" having slept with their pinoy boyfriends,and Virginity-restoraition is advertised in newspapers over there All that glistens isnt gold

there is a cream they put in the flower yes i know all about that as far as freelancers go shopgirls students many like a little extra cash students are a classic example parents send money for books tuition ect they go out spend it on clothes disco the boyfriend so have to earn a little from a foreigner just ask the security guard at the university/college if he has any phone numbers he may give you a list as long as your arm .....of course for a fee

i will leave it there

at the end of the day does it matter what someone has done in the past do you want a VIRGIN

[trader dave]

One of the main cultural differences. The Philippines are still very religious, while those of us in the UK are used to a different slapper every Friday night

there are many religious ones that do sell the flower the place is changing fast i am told it is very hard to even find a virgin now ..... i dont know

[Tawi2]

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[miss.piggy]

After all, would you (knowingly) marry a bar girl from Angeles City?

This made me so curious...what's up with a bar girl from Angeles City???

[mrs traderdave]

so far as i know virginity know now are not important as long ur serious and true of ur wordmostly i know here is 11yrs old pregnant and even 7yrs old watching pornmany said its new generation

[Tawi2]

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[miss.piggy]

One of my best friends married a Bar-girl,they have a daughter who is maybe 9?They have been together for about 12 years?

Exactly why I'm curious. I've lived in HK and a few friends I made were with previous show girls and bar girls. Their relationships are okay. They made decent wives and mothers to their kids.

I've been to Angeles City a few times. Sat on one of the bars there to chat with a few people and some girls. They're not even locals of Angeles...the ones I talked to spoke in Visayan. I don't underestimate bar girls...they have tough jobs.

[Tawi2]

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[miss.piggy]

Funny you should say that Miss P,my friend met his wife when she was working in one of the bars on Lockhart Road in Wanchai She is from Leyte Your right,some of them are hardened,I met loads,but a lot of them are actually doing it to support their families back in the provinces or because they are single-parent mothers who really do have no other option,as I always say,never judge someone like that till you have walked a mile in their shoes,hard times beget hard courses of action,no council housing nor benefit payments for single mums in pinas.

Précisément!

[Tawi2]

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[trader dave]

MAJORITY of girls dont work where they life makes sense realy momma i have a nice job in cebu i have to live away whats your job .... nice job in office

that is life i am afraid and some do make good wifes i am sure

[miss.piggy]

MAJORITY of girls dont work where they life makes sense realy momma i have a nice job in cebu i have to live away whats your job .... nice job in office

that is life i am afraid and some do make good wifes i am sure

[trader dave]

Put it this way,if I had a child to bring up with no other avenues open to me I would also be pressed into doing something pretty extreme,each and every one of us would for survival of our offspring,trust me but none of us know how far we will go when pushed,we are lucky to live in a country which "Cushions us from cradle to grave" Those girls are taking a necessary option,its Hobsons choice in some instances.

very well said tawi you ask any mother and i asked my 21 yr old daughter this would you sell yourself for the sake of your child ....off course any decent mother would ......

[Tawi2]

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[trader dave]

dont understand miss piggy

[miss.piggy]

dont understand miss piggy

Yeah I don't. I struggle, cuz sometimes sincerity, humour and sarcasm does not translate on the internet very well.

[KeithD]

Dave they actually do surgical re-virgination now .....

I used to perform that op.....but my finger kept slipping in

[trader dave]

Yeah I don't. I struggle, cuz sometimes sincerity, humour and sarcasm does not translate on the internet very well.

what part dont you understand

[Northerner]

My previous post was not really a damning judgment on bar girls, but rather an extreme example of the opposite to a virgin.

I think any woman in the Philippines who sells sex for the sake of her children should be looked at with either a sense of pity or a sense of pride. Pity for the fact she has little choice but to sell her body but pride for the fact she is out there trying to feed hungry mouths. However, there are also a lot of bar girls who are notorious for scams and various things. So it would be doubtful that a western man would knowingly marry a bar girl as the trust issue would be a potential killer for that relationship

Whilst virginity is something I personally do not worry about, it can be a cause of pride to many. I have spoken to Muslim men who would not even think of marrying a woman who was not a virgin, yet they are not virgins themselves And so I would think the situation is similar in the Philippines! When I go to see Rizza I willl have no such expectations, wether or not sexual relations take place or not is really of little concern to me. Within a relationship, those things happen in time and it is important not to rush things

Jakeob, relax and take it easy with this girl. Don't worry too much about the sex thing. It will happen in time if it is meant to

[D&G]

I used to perform that op.....but my finger kept slipping in

[joebloggs]

This made me so curious...what's up with a bar girl from Angeles City???

i never made it to Angeles City, maybe one day

I'm joking about the bar girls, but what shocked me more was how women were used and abused by the Filipino local men

from a program i watched on the sex trade in the phils - called 'Hope in Heaven'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWCvVBkAcXU