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    Healthcare Insurance in Phils.

    Hi Folks,
    Have any of the forumers here ever taken out or paid for (Philippines) healthcare insurance for family members in Phils. I just wanted to get some info about it, how much it would cost and the benefits etc.

    If I were to get into this sort of thing in any way, It would have to be on the basis that I would pay the premiums directly to the insurance provider, but I don't know if this would be possible. I really wouldn't like to hand over hard earned money for this purpose only to possibly find out later (if or when an illness or accident occured) that the money had been spent on something else.

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    Hmmm. Never considered this, interesting post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    Hmmm. Never considered this, interesting post
    I've had a look at the Philheath wesite, but it's quite confusing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    I've had a look at the Philheath wesite, but it's quite confusing.
    HI Iain I am a member of Philhealth Insurance in the Philippines, It's quite helpful coz it's just only small percentage deducted to my hospital bills. (Approx. 20-25%)it cost 100 pesos a month and I am paying quarterly (well not this time my Dad maintain it).There are some acceredited banks that collects the payment but I'm not sure if you can do it online or by money transfer because there is a form to filled up it's a Phil government system so I guess not that much techy. You can check the self individually paying on the PHilhealth website

    In addition there are private insurance as well such as Fortune Life, Ayala Insurance and a lot more, but I haven't try any of them because they are private company and I am afraid they might be close due for economic crisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    Hi Folks,
    Have any of the forumers here ever taken out or paid for (Philippines) healthcare insurance for family members in Phils. I just wanted to get some info about it, how much it would cost and the benefits etc.

    If I were to get into this sort of thing in any way, It would have to be on the basis that I would pay the premiums directly to the insurance provider, but I don't know if this would be possible. I really wouldn't like to hand over hard earned money for this purpose only to possibly find out later (if or when an illness or accident occured) that the money had been spent on something else.

    Iain.
    try to look at AIG website,
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEAHnew View Post
    HI Iain I am a member of Philhealth Insurance in the Philippines, It's quite helpful coz it's just only small percentage deducted to my hospital bills. (Approx. 20-25%)it cost 100 pesos a month and I am paying quarterly (well not this time my Dad maintain it).There are some acceredited banks that collects the payment but I'm not sure if you can do it online or by money transfer because there is a form to filled up it's a Phil government system so I guess not that much techy. You can check the self individually paying on the PHilhealth website

    In addition there are private insurance as well such as Fortune Life, Ayala Insurance and a lot more, but I haven't try any of them because they are private company and I am afraid they might be close due for economic crisis.
    Hi Leah,
    I managed to send an email to Philhealth asking if it was possible for me to do this and if so how could I go about it. I'll wait and see what they say. When you say "it's just only small percentage deducted to my hospital bills. (Approx. 20-25%)" do you mean that you still have to pay 75% of the cost of the hospital treatment yourself?

    Iain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by britishdetained View Post
    try to look at AIG website,
    I tried to have a look for them, but because AIG is a multinational company, I can't seem to find a website for them in Phils.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    I tried to have a look for them, but because AIG is a multinational company, I can't seem to find a website for them in Phils.
    Cheers,
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    it is under the umbrella of Phiamlife I think you may also look for ProUK
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    Quote Originally Posted by britishdetained View Post
    it is under the umbrella of Phiamlife I think you may also look for ProUK
    Cheers, I'll try to check them out.

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    So how much is full coverage in the phils? I'm talking NHS style coverage..


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    Cheers, I'll try to check them out.

    Iain.
    http://www.ephilam.com/index.html hope this will help
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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    When you say "it's just only small percentage deducted to my hospital bills. (Approx. 20-25%)" do you mean that you still have to pay 75% of the cost of the hospital treatment yourself?

    Iain.
    Definitely Iain, I am a member when I gave birth to Jed, bill was 24k in private hospital, but accredited by Philhealth and I still pay 18k


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    Quote Originally Posted by britishdetained View Post
    Thanks...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    Thanks...
    you are welcome. One of the most important thing is to have a good health insurance not only to secure you in the future but as well as your family
    There once was a girl that believed in mankind, that there was still honor and chivalry that existed in everyone of us. She also believed that everyone deserves a chance to prove oneself individually and hoped that the courtesy would be returned. That girl is dead now, and all that is left is her shadow. To give one a chance to prove thyself is a chance for you to become dwindled in the dissappointment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    So how much is full coverage in the phils? I'm talking NHS style coverage..
    That will likely be expensive, I bought Ana insurance through Blue Cross after James was born, that cost around 30,000 peso per annum at the time.

    Pregnancy was not covered in the first 12 months.

    Ana does not understand insurance and she did not want it, she always says 'I am strong, I trust in God' in later years we let it lapse because of other pressures on our resources.

    Problem is you will never be able to insure everyone in the family that might need it. Hospital bills vary a lot in Manila and there is always the suspicion that they charge more if a westerner is known to involved.

    The charges are a lot lower than you might think, a consultation with a specialist at a hospital has usually cost me 400 peso.

    When I looked at care for myself back when I was stupidly optimistic about life it was going to cost around 1000 quid a year just for me, so that was a non starter.

    Very first time I went over for Christmas I seriously injured my ankle (went over on it) while I was packing my things just literally 15 hours or so before I was due to fly. I live on my own and I was literally dragging myself around the house trying to finish packing, I tell you I dragged myself through Glasgow Dubai and NAIA nothing was going to stop me getting there I really could barely walk

    When I got there eventually we went to the doc who bandaged me up and charged 400 peso.

    You pay for all your own drugs too.

    Good health insurance is just horribly expensive, we just don't know how lucky we are in this country!


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    Hi Folks,
    Have any of the forumers here ever taken out or paid for (Philippines) healthcare insurance for family members in Phils. I just wanted to get some info about it, how much it would cost and the benefits etc.

    If I were to get into this sort of thing in any way, It would have to be on the basis that I would pay the premiums directly to the insurance provider, but I don't know if this would be possible. I really wouldn't like to hand over hard earned money for this purpose only to possibly find out later (if or when an illness or accident occured) that the money had been spent on something else.

    Iain.
    http://www.bluecross.com.ph/index.php?id=medical

    I thought this was a good service Iain, they accepted my paying by credit card but I did that in person at the office on the boundary of Mandaluong and Makati.

    I wish I had been able to keep it up for Ana but she really did not want it.

    Oh and it was one of the lower end peso plans not the dollar plans.


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    Any one living here should avail of Philhealth.. its 1500PHP a year which covers all listed family members.. My bro in law says he got 50% off his private hospital bill a few weeks back.
    Thumbs up to GMA for giving us Philhealth!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Any one living here should avail of Philhealth.. its 1500PHP a year which covers all listed family members.. My bro in law says he got 50% off his private hospital bill a few weeks back.
    Thumbs up to GMA for giving us Philhealth!!
    Nice to know that Fred And now that I know your online, it is clearly too late for me to stay online


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    Nice to know that Fred And now that I know your online, it is clearly too late for me to stay online



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    the Philhealth pays up to 30% of medical/confinement cost depending on the cases and you should have paid at least 3 months of premium prior to the quarter of availment. Insurance companies in the phils that i have tried were of prudential life health insurance,intellicare ( multi national companies in the phils uses the intellicare health insurance) ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    Hi Leah,
    I managed to send an email to Philhealth asking if it was possible for me to do this and if so how could I go about it. I'll wait and see what they say. When you say "it's just only small percentage deducted to my hospital bills. (Approx. 20-25%)" do you mean that you still have to pay 75% of the cost of the hospital treatment yourself?

    Iain.

    Hi Iain
    The advantage of Philhealth is its only small pay, as what ate leah said if ur self employed/individually paying its only 100 a month 300 quarterly. Hospital deduction varies to situations, at most its 50% plus but it differs when it comes to the diagnosis of the doctor. If example illness is not yet detected but will use lab tests that are not necessarily needed by the final diagnosis its more or less 30% will be covered by philhealth plus there are meds that are not covered by philhealth. My sister payed for 6 mos only but she had used it twice one was deducted 30% and other is more than 50%. Important is to really know what is the patients illness and to just use lab tests that are needed. There are some hospitals who asks deposit first before admitting the patient but some dont and some accepts installments. I think there is good and bad side anywhere, anything and everything. Yes, ustill have to pay the remaining balance after deduction is made plus maintenance meds, then after follow up check ups Correct me if im wrong if my input is not right im talking based on personal experience.
    Having health insurance is good just shame even if its not expensive mostly here do not have coz even to buy rice its a struggle which makes me feel abit upset. Health is very important
    I must add also that if ur using the philhealth benefit for giving birth you should have at least paid for a year.


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    I think Philhealth is very confusing with the variations in what percentage of the cost they will actually cover. I'm waiting for a reply from them and I will see if I can get a more of an understanding of what they do and don't cover and why in different cases they seem to pay out different percentages of the total bill.
    Iain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    I think Philhealth is very confusing with the variations in what percentage of the cost they will actually cover. I'm waiting for a reply from them and I will see if I can get a more of an understanding of what they do and don't cover and why in different cases they seem to pay out different percentages of the total bill.
    Iain.
    I myself is confused too everytime we using philhealth benefits i do hope no more of it
    I have here the copy of computations but im more confused with it
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    Have you checked on Medicard, Iain? My friend and her family is using Medicard and it seems to be very helpful even on check-ups. I think it's just important that you check if they have any accredited hospitals or dental clinics at your family's area to ensure accessibility when you need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.piggy View Post
    Have you checked on Medicard, Iain? My friend and her family is using Medicard and it seems to be very helpful even on check-ups. I think it's just important that you check if they have any accredited hospitals or dental clinics at your family's area to ensure accessibility when you need them.

    http://www.medicardphils.com/
    Thank's Miss Piggy, I'll check that out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    I tried to have a look for them, but because AIG is a multinational company, I can't seem to find a website for them in Phils.
    Cheers,
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    Hi Iain, you can try looking into Philamcare....they were really good back then, not sure now though if they're still as good as they used to be....
    I used to work at Philam Insurance before (few years ago, lol) which is under AIG.....
    AIG in the philippines consist of the following - Philam life Insurance, Philam Insurance (non-life), Philam plans, Philam care and Philam Bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.piggy View Post
    Have you checked on Medicard, Iain? My friend and her family is using Medicard and it seems to be very helpful even on check-ups. I think it's just important that you check if they have any accredited hospitals or dental clinics at your family's area to ensure accessibility when you need them.

    http://www.medicardphils.com/
    medicard is also good, my mom is on this one actually
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    try caritas health insurance
    all things are possible!


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    I see no one has mentioned,that as an alien you cannot be in Phil health under your own name.You have to be enrolled as a dependant of your spouse


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    Hi Iain, you can try looking into Philamcare....they were really good back then, not sure now though if they're still as good as they used to be....
    I used to work at Philam Insurance before (few years ago, lol) which is under AIG.....
    AIG in the philippines consist of the following - Philam life Insurance, Philam Insurance (non-life), Philam plans, Philam care and Philam Bank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    medicard is also good, my mom is on this one actually
    Thanks for the info Sophie. The more companies I can look into the better.

    Iain.


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