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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    WOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN!
    Mr Cautious Personally, I say take things slow but listen to your heart and make sure your not marrying just for sex Otherwise you might get a shock later! But like it or not this country demands proof of a relationship so you need to take things a little slow


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    Oft repeated.................Marry in haste repent at leisure at first the bedroom gymnastics are great and serve to paper over the cracks,but once the novelty wears off.............. Its impossible to really truly know someone in 4 months,especially someone on the other side of the world you havent actually set eyes on,but these speed-marriages seem to work for some,hope your one of them



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Oft repeated.................Marry in haste repent at leisure at first the bedroom gymnastics are great and serve to paper over the cracks,but once the novelty wears off.............. Its impossible to really truly know someone in 4 months,especially someone on the other side of the world you havent actually set eyes on,but these speed-marriages seem to work for some,hope your one of them

    you want shortime or long time now i know what they mean


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    Mr Cautious Personally, I say take things slow but listen to your heart and make sure your not marrying just for sex Otherwise you might get a shock later! But like it or not this country demands proof of a relationship so you need to take things a little slow
    Cautious I maybe, but would you want to marry someone you hadn't yet met....don't say yes Northerner

    Personally, we've been through a lot of heartache, to get where we are now & so have many more here.....beware!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    Personally, we've been through a lot of heartache
    but you got thru that, then you both can get thru anything


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    but you got thru that, then you both can get thru anything
    Indeed Personally, I am not going to the phils to get married but if things happen like I am hoping... Then who knows next year or so

    But I doubt I will be waiting for 2 years or anything like that


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    Plus, I would go the fiance route because at least then you can livetogether for a few months before doind the deed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post

    But I doubt I will be waiting for 2 years or anything like that
    2yrs , it was more than 2yrs before i went to see the misses for the first time, even after we wed, she was in the phils for more than a year

    treat them mean, keep them keen


    i'm joking


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post


    i'm joking
    Yeah, I know you posted the white flag just as the missus tapped you on the shoulder


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    but you got thru that, then you both can get thru anything
    Yep! you're right ...just advising caution to others

    By the way joey....hope your mrs. passes her exams, so you get your trip next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    WOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN!

    Yours just smacks of desperation....don't rush it
    LOL thats a bit hurtful :(

    Nope not desperation. We are not desperate to get married, but are desperate to be together

    Clearly, the logical route is the Fiance Visa, thats why I ask the question about it. Once my gf is here we would have almost 6 months to really get to know each other and our feelings.

    Of course, even 6 months is not a "long" time. However, the feelings in our hearts appear to be real, so we want to move forward.

    In an ideal world we would have more time to spend together, but because of the Visa restrictions thats not the case. Thats why we initially try to get a General Visa visitor, to get to know each other better, but that was refused :(

    I am visiting Philly in October and will spend 8 days with my gf, meet her family etc

    Would I like to be there longer? Definately, but due to work restrictions I cant

    Would I like to visit Philly every few months? Of course, again cant be done

    Shame she was not in an EU Country, it would be so much easier, I could fly over for a long weekend every month, and of course her Visa would be a formality

    However, due to the 3rd Country Visa rules, the Fiance Visa seems to be our best option with at least some time to get to know each other before deciding if we want to get married.

    However, my gf feels as strongly as I do re our feelings........so I hope our hearts do become one

    Thanks to everyone for the advise......even the nagative comments.........its all useful

    Any more agvice re ensuring Fiance Visa application is successful greatly received

    Cheers


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    WOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN! SLOW DOWN!

    I'm starting to find your posts a bit worrying?

    What does your ladyfriend think about all of this?

    Would you marry a British woman this quickly? I don't think so.

    Please just go & visit her & spend some time together....someone here has just had his spouse visa refused, through lack of sufficient evidence of a proper relationship....sounds like he has a genuine case.

    Yours just smacks of desperation....don't rush it
    Please ... pay heed to my friend Simon's sensible advice! Remember marriage is, after all [supposed to be] a lifetime commitment between two people. And it most certainly IS regarded AS such, if one of them happens to be Filipino. So don't be too hasty ... simply for the sake of "beating the system"!

    As Simon says, the wife of a newcomer to this site was denied a spousal visa just a matter of days ago and, much as I sympathise with the couple concerned, I PERSONALLY suspect (though I may be wrong) that the reason for this refusal was because the Entry Clearance Officer wasn't completely satisfied that the parties had spent sufficient time in getting to know one another properly before "taking the plunge".

    Welcome to the forum, and best of luck to you both in the future.


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    Hi Arthur,

    Thanks for the reply. I am not trying to beat the system. All I want is for my lovely girl to be allowed into the UK so that we can get to know each other.

    I cant spend anymore time in Philly other than my trip in October, so her coming to the UK is the only option.

    Thats why I mention the Fiance Visa route, as we will have several months to really find out if our feelings are real. That seems to be the only route into the UK other than the Spouse route. However, as you & Simon say, we dont yet know each other well enough to get married so soon, hense the Fiance route.

    We have both discuseed our feeling very openly. My gf does want to become my fiance, and I am more than happy for that to happen. Although chatting on Yahoo and on Cam is not ideal, you can still pick up on feelings, emotions reactions etc.

    There is know doubt that we have falling in love with each other

    However, its sensible to want to meet each other and spend time together in order to ensure our "feelings" are real etc.

    Its a shame the Fiance Visa does not give a longer time before having to get married, but honestly, if our feelings remain as they are now when we spend time together in Philly, and during 5 months in the UK should she get her fiance Visa, I would have no hesitation in marrying her

    Its just a shame the Visa playing field is not equal :(

    Everyone should be able to get a Visa as easily as EU Country residents.

    Thanks again for your advice


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    Hi Angel1403

    Sorry! if you find my post a little offensive to you, just telling you the way I saw it.
    I sincerely hope that you go out to the Philippines & things work out well for you both....I've been looking in regularly on this forum, for 18 months now & I've soaked up a lot of valuable information from it's members.
    You have to understand, that things don't happen overnight....we're all in the same boat, or have been....We've all scrimped, used all our holidays up etc. etc....Often over a couple of years.

    Trying to rush things, will probably only add to your frustration.

    Peace & goodluck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sim11UK View Post
    Hi Angel1403

    Sorry! if you find my post a little offensive to you, just telling you the way I saw it.
    I sincerely hope that you go out to the Philippines & things work out well for you both....I've been looking in regularly on this forum, for 18 months now & I've soaked up a lot of valuable information from it's members.
    You have to understand, that things don't happen overnight....we're all in the same boat, or have been....We've all scrimped, used all our holidays up etc. etc....Often over a couple of years.

    Trying to rush things, will probably only add to your frustration.

    Peace & goodluck!
    Hi

    No problem, I was just a little hurt.........but ok now

    Thanks for the good wishes

    Yes I hope when I am in Philly in October that we get on great and do decide to get engaged.

    Thereafter I guess we just need to see what happens with Visa application.

    Yes I can imagine that lots of holidays etc have been used on trips to Philly.

    Unfortunately, due to work and other business I dont really have that option. Consequently, thats why we hope the Fiance option works for us

    Thanks again for your advice


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    Hi Angel,

    I do understand your frustrations here with the visa rules, i think going down the fiance visa route is a good idea, i did the get married abroad thing and it was a big mistake, visa refused the lot. Personaly i cant see any problem meeting a girl online, traveling half way round the world to spend some time with her, then asking the goverment to let her visit you in your country
    I wonder what would be your chances of getting a fiance visa on the basis of your plan? i wonder how many trips you would have to make to please the embassy? is one trip enough to get a fiance visa? i think these are some good questions you should be asking at this point

    Hope it works out for you "good luck"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel1403 View Post
    Omg my head is spinning. It's so complicated.

    Yes it will be my first time in Philly and due to work commitmants my only visit for at least a year. Conseqently, we really need to use the visit to our best advantage.

    It's only 8 days I am there, mon to mon. I assumed best to use the time to get to know each other, meet her mom dad etc. Get lots of pics taken and get engaged. We also planned to visit the British Embassy in Manila to ask for advice stating we just got engaged and we like to get my fiancé into the Uk with intention to marry within 6 month.

    The idea also was to bring out bank statements etc with me ready to be submitted with fiancé Visa application.

    Now some people mention getting married. I guess we could during the 7 days if it makes it easier for my lovely lady to be with me?

    I guess it means a spouse visa application following my visit, or is there another way? Also what are legal implications re getting married in Philly?

    My house is main asset in my name only. My lovely lady has already said she has no interest in it and suggested if my solicitor needed her to sign some legal doc she would. So I have mo worries re her intentions.

    She really is a gorgeous sweet sincere & caring girl. I guess that's what I fall in love with her :-)

    thanks for advice. I really appreciate it

    Cheers
    You would have to turn up in the Philippines with a Cerificate of No Impediment (CNI) which you get from your local registry office. Once there you would need to exchange it for the local version at the British Embassy in Manila, then you would have to apply for a marriage licence (which takes 10 days in most parts of the Philippines) and you would probably have to attend a pre marital seminar as well. So I don't think it would be possible for you to get married within an eight day stay.

    Iain.


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