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    Making Money on the Internet




    OK, so it's not that easy

    But one way of doing it if you have no site of your own is to use a descent online resource that pays you a share of the advertising revenue on that page and Hubpages is one such place, I have a page here, and will eventually add more.

    You need an account with Kontera (like Infolinks), Google, Adsense and Amazon to get the best out of it, and don't expect a glut of money, especially if you include articles on crap. By that I mean cheap keywords, especially longtails (a phrase of 3 or more words).

    Cheap Flights To Las Vegas is a 5 word longtail keyword. And as it is travel relevant the keywords are worth average. You then include the longtail in your title, and article about 3-5 times. This then helps it be discovered on the search engines easier when people search for the longtail.

    You can find longtails at Wordtracker and Adsense, you get the value as well on the latter. You are looking for ones of decent value $1+, and competion no more than 50%, but over 1000 searches.

    You need to publish new pages on a regular basis to stand any chance of making a few extra quid a month.
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    Thanks for sharing Boss..looking forward to learn from you more
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    Is there any way to get google to recognise a site so its one of the first flagged up when someone types in a key product searchword?



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Is there any way to get google to recognise a site so its one of the first flagged up when someone types in a key product searchword?
    You mean like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    You mean like this?
    Smart..


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    Thats EXACTLY what I mean Theres something I will be selling online very soon,I just tracked it,first lot is at Stanstead as we speak



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    Takes A LOT of time and effort.
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    A good magician never reveals his secrets huh?



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    The eagle has landed I am getting my website fine-tuned still a little tweaking here and there but I have the product,thats the main thing,and because I am buying at source(China) I can sell cheaply,rich...rich...RICH Um,how did you say to get the site as a google favourite again



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Find a longtail keyword and build your homepage around that.

    Put the phrase in H1 brackets, the title, description, meta, and at the bottom of the page in italics. Highlight the phrase elsewhere on the page in bold.

    That doesn't get you to the top but it ensure Google lists you for the correct searches.
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    Maraming salamat I wont forget you when I am a Billionaire(got to set my sights high)



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    The eagle has landed I am getting my website fine-tuned still a little tweaking here and there but I have the product,thats the main thing,and because I am buying at source(China) I can sell cheaply,rich...rich...RICH Um,how did you say to get the site as a google favourite again
    Hmmmm.....china-sourced products
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    Hmmmm.....china-sourced products
    Recycled condoms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Recycled condoms
    most likely
    "10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
    "The way to love anything is to realize that it may be lost"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Recycled condoms
    We call them prophylactics in the trade



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Find a longtail keyword and build your homepage around that.

    Put the phrase in H1 brackets, the title, description, meta, and at the bottom of the page in italics. Highlight the phrase elsewhere on the page in bold.

    That doesn't get you to the top but it ensure Google lists you for the correct searches.
    Dont want to rock any cradles here...but I think there is slightly more to getting listed in any search engine, Google is but one of many - than just a few keywords.

    If you try to show in a high traffic catagory.. ( web design - do a search and see how many pages clock up.. and these guys are expert at SEO ) - and you will have a bit of a wait.

    As a web designer ( mostly for me but I do handle a few sites for others, I jump through hoops getting everything optomised. Google ...I am advised - tend not to place too much priority to keywords as the main listing criteria.

    Do keep us informed as to your progress up the listings.


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    What is the keyword criteria?How do you jump ahead of the opposition in the listings?How do you get on that crucial first page?



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Is there any way to get google to recognise a site so its one of the first flagged up when someone types in a key product searchword?
    Yes, you can pay me around £450 a month and I will get you an high listing !

    I jest not, getting listed is not easy.. and depends on lots of things.

    Its too complex for a short post here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo View Post
    Do keep us informed as to your progress up the listings.
    I've been doing SEO for years and I'm No.1 for a lot of keywords for a number of sites which is what Google relies on to list your site in the correct search. That is the first step, ensuring the search engines log exactly what you site is about otherwise you might have a widget site that is never listed in widget searches, but appears under apples!

    Part 2 is then moving up the rankings for those keywords, and for that you need backlinks using related keywords, preferably from higher PR sites, and especially from .gov & .edu
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    I will have to delve deeper into this



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    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    If your domain is new, and Google hasn't found your site you'll probably be sandboxed for a few months (penalised so lower listings). You can get around this but I'm not telling If however you are in a non-competitive area you will likey get listed pretty quick but you'll still be pages down.

    Your domain containing your product help a great deal.

    I'm constantly running 'experiments' to check out how the search engines are handling things, don't believe most of the crap you read elsewhere.
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    Its a non-competative market at the moment,its just starting to take off and most of the guys advertising are buying from an importer,I went straight to the source I will get someone to look into it.



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
    The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.


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    Well I've been testing this Hubpages for 2 days and made squat So it's crap then? Nope....it usually helps if you read the instructions first Some muppet (me) messed up on Adsense , got some articles delisted for spam , and all marked as duplicates so unlikely to be highly ranked.

    Apart from the Adsense hiccup (fixed now), the others I done on purpose. Only way to know the boundaries is to break them

    Now I have software to help with writing articles, which is good enough for most things, but Hubpages are pretty strict on this and from experimenting it seems you need to change around 60% of any articles you already have published. This is pretty easy with the 2nd software I use.

    Once uploaded the 'Duplicate' label is removed and you get bonus points, plus Google will list you higher. I've rewritten 3, and added 2 totally unique articles.

    So all I have to do is wait another 24-48hrs and see what happens.

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Spirit-Airline
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    I've spied on a few of the top earners on the site to see what they are doing, why should I do all the work when others have already done it for me?

    So I've redone one page with plenty of twiddly bits and I'll see how that one does: Las Vegas Grand Canyon
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    This is fun!! Always nice when tying to make $0.05 it's fun

    Very easy to use even a Manc could do it

    Las Vegas Wedding
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    There's only one thing i can make money on the internet.. become a love & sex guru
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJ View Post
    There's only one thing i can make money on the internet.. become a love & sex guru
    Hmmm! I think I'll try that!

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    Continental Airline

    Continental Airline, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, offers more than 3,100 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    You mean like this?
    Hi,

    Sorry to be a boat rocker...but search results depend on on the "questions asked.
    Not many newbies know the word filipino...and would use Philippines.
    and get this
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

    or genrally Asia forum and get this.
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

    I'm not setting me up as expert or knocking you, but I think you and I know that search engines are not easy things.

    I have a client who I have kept consistantly on the first page, usually in the top 5 and for some years No 1 or 2. Until PPC kicked in.

    This client has just gone onto PPC at £300 a month starter pack!
    Logically if I have him on the first pages more or less world wide, all he is doing is paying for the hits he gets anyway..which because its a specialist trade...is only around the 150 - 200 a week mark.

    I have never been involved in adding Google adds etc to websites, because they are mostly "brochure sites" and teh punter does not want visitiors linking away from their site.

    BUT times are hard and I am planning a move to Manila for a couple of year and need to get some form of income! Any advice and information welcome...and I guess you dont need it..but I can offer web design stuff in return.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo View Post
    Hi,

    Sorry to be a boat rocker...but search results depend on on the "questions asked.


    I'm not setting me up as expert or knocking you, but I think you and I know that search engines are not easy things.
    I only showed 1 result, not the other 100's of keywords I show up in the top 10, in fact my tracking software today shows over 347 top 10, and over 1000 top 20, and I don't even track all the keywords I could, since Google put up it's bot control timer.

    Specific question for instance: documents for fiancee Visa

    4,500 People on Google search for 'Filipino Forum' each month, add on the other search engines around the world and that is a good wad even before including the other entries I have.

    As I say I've been doing this for yonks, and know most of the white & black hat ways of doing things. And Google usually indexes new posts on here within 20 minutes so she loves me

    I've already got some of those Hubpages in the top 30, just adding inbound links now to move them up.
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