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    BBC in Filipno racist Gaffe

    Did anyone see the Torchwood prgramme tonight?
    One of the actresses referred to "adopting a filipino boy to clean the chimneys"

    I immediately complained to the BBC. This is racism at worst & poor taste stereotyping at best - there was no need for it.

    Come on guys- look at it on I-player & get your complaints in now.


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    why Filipino ? what's the Philippines got to do with chimney sweeps , cheap labour ? why not china or india then ??

    100 years ago, we use to use scouser kids to do it near me


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    why Filipino ? what's the Philippines got to do with chimney sweeps , cheap labour ? why not china or india then ??
    Exactly!

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    100 years ago, we use to use scouser kids to do it near me
    Near YOU? 100 years ago? ... ... hadn't realised you were THAT old, Joe!


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    Yeah they should have said a long tall skinny comedian called Brand is good for cleaning muck out of Chimney I think thats how his hair got like that!


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    I'm not sure I'd regard that as intentioanlly racist.
    Stereotyping, yes, but most of us do that on a regualr basis without even realising it.

    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    why Filipino ? what's the Philippines got to do with chimney sweeps , cheap labour ? why not china or india then ??
    While it may be politically more accurate, I'm not sure that "adopting a filipino, chinese, indian, african or otherwise underpriveleged boy to clean the chimneys" would be any more acceptable, and certainly not dramatically effective, or reflective of how people generally speak.

    NB - I havent yet seen the program but will hopefully watch it tomorrow on iplayer - I quite like Torchwood normally.


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    Oh for God's sake, I said some idiots would pull this up today. It's an off the cuff remark based on the assumptions in this country that folk from the Philippines do slave labour around the world....which they basically do....FACT

    I found it amusing, and so did the wife.
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    i married my wife to clean the chimneys but i have house with no chimneys

    and also i never knew they was good as chimney sweeps!

    i saw the show and was more concerned with the gay guy acting tough.
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Alien Invasion

    Hmmm... a bit racist but more of a stereotyping I must say...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gary2jessica View Post
    Yeah they should have said a long tall skinny comedian called Brand is good for cleaning muck out of Chimney I think thats how his hair got like that!
    hey, i like him, he's a funny guy along with alan carr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Oh for God's sake, I said some idiots would pull this up today. It's an off the cuff remark based on the assumptions in this country that folk from the Philippines do slave labour around the world....which they basically do....FACT

    I found it amusing, and so did the wife.
    Yeah, some may find this as stereotyping or racism or whatever it's called, but there's some truth to it,
    and we cannot deny the fact that philippines is a 3rd world country so other people may have that kind of assumption....
    I noticed we tend get over sensitive about small and silly remarks or jokes made about our country,
    but i guess sometimes we just have to brush off and ignore trivial stuff, laugh it off and move on....
    "10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    hey, i like him, he's a funny guy along with alan carr
    he's not!! lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay&Zobel View Post
    he's not!! lol
    LOL, which one among the two? or both of them?
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    Russel Brand - About as funny as Gordon Brown. He's a grade one dipstick. As for Alan Carr, the less he squeaks the better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    LOL, which one among the two? or both of them?
    the one in the pic! lol/// or shall I say hehe both of them aren't...lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay&Zobel View Post
    the one in the pic! lol/// or shall I say hehe both of them aren't...lol
    hehehe, i know what you mean, lol
    maybe i'm already starting to embrace and enjoy the british sense of humor (if they are considered as one, lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    hey, i like him, he's a funny guy along with alan carr
    I am really worried about your well being....


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    I am really worried about your well being....
    Her well is a 'being'.....back to aliens
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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    I am really worried about your well being....
    well, i just find some of his humor funny, nothing to do with my well being

    and for the record, i find what russel did in radio 2 show before not amusing at all,
    and i'm not even here yet when that happened, my hubby just told me about it.....
    my basis for saying he is funny, was his stand up comedy routine that i saw on tv when i got here 3 months ago,
    and based on that, i find some of his humor funny and hilarious, some are nasty but i don't mind, i just laughed it off
    as with alan carr, well, i just find his stand up comedy stunts funny and hilarious as well, i can't help it, lol
    "10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Her well is a 'being'.....back to aliens
    then back to the boss
    "10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarBell379 View Post
    I'm not sure I'd regard that as intentioanlly racist.
    Stereotyping, yes, but most of us do that on a regualr basis without even realising it.
    I totally agree on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    i married my wife to clean the chimneys but i have house with no chimneys

    and also i never knew they was good as chimney sweeps!

    i saw the show and was more concerned with the gay guy acting tough.
    I agree, never heard of a filipino chimneysweep.
    Filipino nurses or caregivers would be more accurate im sure


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    I think the guy has got a point...I'm not going to deny that Filipino's are working as nurses/maids/carers in many places...there is nothing wrong with it as such....whats wrong is when people talk and act as if Filipino's are only good for this kind of thing, it's not right! It's oppression!

    I get saddened when I hear Filipino's say I could be a maid..a waitress/waiter...a carer/nurse....there is nothing wrong with this as such but, why not manager of multimillion pound company? Why not an Estate Agent? etc..In my experience Filipino's can be very educated, I've spoke to children in Philippines that are more educated and intelligent than me...

    I once started the thread "The Filipina Maid Mentality" and I'm not sure you guys understood what I was getting at...Is the Filipino modesty really an oppression? I sometimes feel it might be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel View Post
    Is the Filipino modesty really an oppression? I sometimes feel it might be..
    In some way, yeah, i think so too................
    "10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
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    its a joke lang some find it funny others dont

    if it was said on philippine tv noboby would be phoning up to complain ,because as someone said cheap labour ,slave labour ,human rights does not exist YET


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    That's not new with BBC. I can't remember if they have programme that gives compliments to us and our country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    That's not new with BBC. I can't remember if they have programme that gives compliments to us and our country.
    They had a program on the Philippines a couple of months back, and as I said, the Philippine people put themselves into the world market as general cheap labour. For every skilled Filipino abroad, over 100 are maids, nannies, working in ships bellies, etc.

    Most countries have labels, France....cowards....(also works for Italians as well )....Holland....sex......Germans.....war.......but go to Europe and mention the English, the only responce you get is drunken hooligans. Not nice, they've probably never been here, but abroad it is the truth based on what our younger folk do.
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    As it happened in the past, I am half expecting the Ambassador to complain bitterly and ban every BBC presenter, actor, producer and executive from entering the Philippines as undesirables......


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    I once started the thread "The Filipina Maid Mentality" and I'm not sure you guys understood what I was getting at...Is the Filipino modesty really an oppression? I sometimes feel it might be..
    Nothing to do with modesty..Its just them being realistic about their job prospects abroad.
    Filipino`s are no longer thought as by many companies of being the cheapest world labour these days and that's why the Indians have replaced them in countries like Saudi and Dubai. Get real.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    They had a program on the Philippines a couple of months back, and as I said, the Philippine people put themselves into the world market as general cheap labour. For every skilled Filipino abroad, over 100 are maids, nannies, working in ships bellies, etc.
    AT LEAST HEHE, It only means Filipinos are hardworking and not couch potatoes hahaha... think about it
    It's quite positive you see hahaha



    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Most countries have labels,
    France....cowards....(also works for Italians as well )....
    Holland....sex......
    Germans.....war.......but go to
    Europe and mention the English, the only responce you get is drunken hooligans.
    Not nice, they've probably never been here, but abroad it is the truth based on what our younger folk do.
    YEP, I TOTALLY AGREE!! but what about those Brits who were caught in Dubai beach having ? What do you call them? SAD REALLY!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Not nice, they've probably never been here, but abroad it is the truth based on what our younger folk do.
    Are you that old now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay&Zobel;150326

    but what about those Brits who were caught in Dubai beach having :censored:? [B
    What do you call them? [/B] SAD REALLY!!!
    horny?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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