needs advise for overstaying apply for spousal visa

[maricel28]

hello i just wanted to know is any chances if somebody applying for spouse visa but she had overstayer in uk before.because my friend applying for spouse visa but she is overstay in london for 5 years she coming back in philippines last march 2008 and get married in april 2008 but she is still here and now applying for spouse visa.what chances she has thanks.

[bornatbirth]

when she left did her passport get stamped or was anything done?

if not then no one will know about her overstaying?

[Mrs.JMajor]

Isnt that recorded in computer bornabirth,when she left the UK ?

[Arthur Little]

... if not then no one will know about her overstaying?

Hmm, that possibility crossed MY mind too! And I suppose it's relatively easy to "disappear without trace" for a while in a city the size of London. But nonetheless, I'm baffled as to how someone who's overstayed for such a lengthy period of time could possibly evade the scrutiny of the immigration authorities on returning to her home country.

[Arthur Little]

Isnt that recorded in computer bornabirth,when she left the UK ?

I'd have thought so!

[katie37pinayuk]

in the past (about just 3 yrs ago), when leaving UK, passport is not stamped with your exit nor scanned in the computer. but upon entry to Philippines, it is stamped...however - if you know people in the immigration, that is another story. with tightened rules nowadays thought, everything is scanned and computerised.

[Arthur Little]

Hmm, that possibility crossed MY mind too! And I suppose it's relatively easy to "disappear without trace" for a while in a city the size of London. But nonetheless, I'm baffled as to how someone who's overstayed for such a lengthy period of time could possibly evade the scrutiny of the immigration authorities on returning to her home country.

Having said that, may I take the opportunity of welcoming you to the forum, Maricel. Good luck to your now-married friend; however, given her past "misdemeanour", she could find herself in a rather tricky situation in applying for a spouse visa. Therefore, I would be ill-advised in even attempting to speculate here. Sorry!

[maricel28]

thanks for the reply!her passport is clean and no stamp when she left london,

[KeithD]

Isnt that recorded in computer bornabirth,when she left the UK ?

Yes if we had an immigration system, but as we don't you can come & go as you please

[Mrs.JMajor]

Because when people invistigate to the corrupt politician in PI,they know when they exit and they know when came in eh!

[Tawi2]

This happened to a lady I know from North London,she came here several years ago with her employer,did a runner and lived as a TNT till she met a guy who married her,they went to pinas(where she was already married with kids)then when they tried to get back into UK she was denied,she is back in London now though after an appeal etc,I dont know what happened to the pinoy hubbie or the children however

[maricel28]

well the new immigration law in london now as far as i know if you are overstaying in london you must to go back to your country voluntarily in your expenses, then they give a ban for one year and you can come back to london again but it depends

[joebloggs]

there is no automatic mandatory ban for spouses,doesn't mean you would not face a ban, just means it's not automatic unlike some other visa types.

i take it your passport was stamped by immigration when you landed back in Manila ?

[blessedlady89]

ECO will or might refused your application because of your previous immigration history. Consider yourself lucky if you will get a visa straight away. They don't care , even there is family involved. They are ruthless. But if you are refused visa, you will be given right of appeal. But expect to be away for a year. Because the time of waiting for the submission of appeal and hearing will take ages. MOre or less 6 months to 9 months. It may take more months of wait because Manila process the application of three other countries HK Japan and ??? (can't remember ). So could you imagine how many applications British Embassy has to deal with???

hello i just wanted to know is any chances if somebody applying for spouse visa but she had overstayer in uk before.because my friend applying for spouse visa but she is overstay in london for 5 years she coming back in philippines last march 2008 and get married in april 2008 but she is still here and now applying for spouse visa.what chances she has thanks.

[blessedlady89]

By the way you must be HONEST in your application because if they find out you will put yourself in more difficult situation. No matter what don't HIDE anything in your application.

ECO will or might refused your application because of your previous immigration history. Consider yourself lucky if you will get a visa straight away. They don't care , even there is family involved. They are ruthless. But if you are refused visa, you will be given right of appeal. But expect to be away for a year. Because the time of waiting for the submission of appeal and hearing will take ages. MOre or less 6 months to 9 months. It may take more months of wait because Manila process the application of three other countries HK Japan and ??? (can't remember ). So could you imagine how many applications British Embassy has to deal with???

[LadyJ]

hello i just wanted to know is any chances if somebody applying for spouse visa but she had overstayer in uk before.because my friend applying for spouse visa but she is overstay in london for 5 years she coming back in philippines last march 2008 and get married in april 2008 but she is still here and now applying for spouse visa.what chances she has thanks.

Ask your friend to spend time reading info here in the forum as we have had lots of members who have asked the same question before. ALso tell her to visit the official immigration websites ie. Home Office and British Embassy in Phils.

when she left did her passport get stamped or was anything done?
if not then no one will know about her overstaying?

Isnt that recorded in computer bornabirth,when she left the UK ?

thanks for the reply!her passport is clean and no stamp when she left london,

When leaving UK immigration usually has no stamp, but when landed in Phils they'll get one.

WHen applying a visa to UK ,the BritEMb REQUIRED you to show them any of your old/previous passports specially those stamps/visa you applied to any country before.

They will also have record of your previous application to the UK, so even though you tell them that you cant show your old passport for some reason (ie.lost passport or overstayed your visa and doesn't want it to show to the BritEmb) they will still know your history.

So my advice is never lie to the BritEmb, always tell the truth whatever you did with your previous visa. BritEmb are not stupid.

If you would like to have a success application, provide all the supporting documents they required and must show that THIS TIME you're a genuine applicant.

[LadyJ]

I also want to add the ECO will always based on how good your supporting documents and how good you can demonstrate your intention of applying a right visa for you.

[trader dave]

Yes if we had an immigration system, but as we don't you can come & go as you please

that only applies if you are not british


if you miss a court apperance and you are british you get arrested as soon as you walk off the plane

[beppe]

Before you go any further, it would be wise to consult an immigration lawyer.

[maricel28]

hello everyone in this forum,first of all i would like to thanks the almighty good who give me this wonderful gift.2nd to people in forum who always there to give advise.
finally i got a visa after 11weeks of waiting i cant believe but i handle now my passport with visa.after nearly 3month of worrying in my case i know it very difficult to have visa thanks also to the ECO who handle my application. my tears is falling when i saw my passport.

[Tawi2]

I thought it was your "Friend" who was the overstayer I wonder why they gave you a visa instead of her

[LEAHnew]

hello everyone in this forum,first of all i would like to thanks the almighty good who give me this wonderful gift.2nd to people in forum who always there to give advise.
finally i got a visa after 11weeks of waiting i cant believe but i handle now my passport with visa.after nearly 3month of worrying in my case i know it very difficult to have visa thanks also to the ECO who handle my application. my tears is falling when i saw my passport.

Congratulation Maricel I understand you predicament and referred it as YOUR FRIEND

I thought it was your "Friend" who was the overstayer I wonder why they gave you a visa instead of her

the author maybe confused

[Tawi2]

Confused I dont know about her but I certainly am You mean its like Norman Bates and his "mother"Her friend was the overstayer but they gave her the visa because the friend has Multiple Personality Syndromeand pretends to be her through dissasociative personality disorder and really the visa was meant for the brother as the aunt was the overstayer

[IainBusby]

hello everyone in this forum,first of all i would like to thanks the almighty good who give me this wonderful gift.2nd to people in forum who always there to give advise.
finally i got a visa after 11weeks of waiting i cant believe but i handle now my passport with visa.after nearly 3month of worrying in my case i know it very difficult to have visa thanks also to the ECO who handle my application. my tears is falling when i saw my passport.

Congratulation to you..... and to your friend!

[LEAHnew]

Confused I dont know about her but I certainly am You mean its like Norman Bates and his "mother"Her friend was the overstayer but they gave her the visa because the friend has Multiple Personality Syndromeand pretends to be her through dissasociative personality disorder and really the visa was meant for the brother as the aunt was the overstayer

that's really confusing then

[Tawi2]

Glad we got the story sorted out then,I was quite confused for a minute,and my "Friend" who is sitting in the same chair as me was also

[LadyJ]

hello everyone in this forum,first of all i would like to thanks the almighty good who give me this wonderful gift.2nd to people in forum who always there to give advise.
finally i got a visa after 11weeks of waiting i cant believe but i handle now my passport with visa.after nearly 3month of worrying in my case i know it very difficult to have visa thanks also to the ECO who handle my application. my tears is falling when i saw my passport.

Hi Maricel Well done!!

Start packing now and get ready for winter!

[bornatbirth]

Glad we got the story sorted out then,I was quite confused for a minute,and my "Friend" who is sitting in the same chair as me was also

is that guy in the mirror you?

Congratulation to you..... and to your friend!

yeah,congrats to the both of you!

the great british border control

[sunshine]

hello everyone in this forum,first of all i would like to thanks the almighty good who give me this wonderful gift.2nd to people in forum who always there to give advise.
finally i got a visa after 11weeks of waiting i cant believe but i handle now my passport with visa.after nearly 3month of worrying in my case i know it very difficult to have visa thanks also to the ECO who handle my application. my tears is falling when i saw my passport.

Congratulations Maricel! Well done

Just curios thou, did you put in your application that you overstayed in london before?

I am in my 18th weeks of waiting

[maricel28]

sorry for all all here in forum who confused and i know i didnt honest to all of you in the first ,yes sunshine i pass my aplication last june 16 and i put everything the in my appliacation that im overstayer .you just wait and soon you have a visa too good luck.