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aromulus
7th February 2010, 17:38
It was long in coming, but finally here....



CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATION: FAO married spouses of EU nationals:

Married spouses of EU nationals are exempted from obtaining a Schengen visa to travel to France if they hold:
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/local/cache-vignettes/L8xH11/puce-32883.gif a valid travel document, i.e. passport;
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/local/cache-vignettes/L8xH11/puce-32883.gif a valid UK residence permit with the endorsement "family member of EEA national";
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/local/cache-vignettes/L8xH11/puce-32883.gif and if they are joining or travelling with the EU national.
However if they do not satisfy the above conditions, they need to apply for a visa to travel to France (for instance if their UK residency does not state those exact words/ their spouse is not travelling).
Caution:
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/local/cache-vignettes/L8xH11/puce-32883.gif This exemption only applies to married spouses of EU Nationals, i.e. not to parents or children - for further information and procedure to apply for a visa as the family member of an EU citizen, click here (…) (http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Family-members-of-an-European.html) nor to unmarried partners, civil partners - for further information and procedure to apply for a short stay Schengen visa, click here (…) (http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Short-stay-schengen-visa.html)
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/local/cache-vignettes/L8xH11/puce-32883.gif Family members of French Nationals are not included in this legislation and still require visas to travel to France. Click here to apply for a visa as the family member of a French citizen, click here (…) (http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Family-members-of-a-french-citizen.html)
http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Visa-website-of-the-French.html#outil_sommaire_12

Bluebirdjones
7th February 2010, 19:46
a little confused.

a valid UK residence permit with the endorsement "family member of EEA national";

The ID card my wife received recently (Dec), which is effectively a UK
residence permit has the following:
Type of Permit
SPOUSE/PARTNER
LEAVE TO REMAIN

... which I'm sure is the standard "message" on all the ID's
Certainly no mention of "family member of EEA national" ....

So I'm wondering if the ID card is valid proof for them ...and if
not, how the hell do u obtain this "proof" of being a family member of an
EEA national ?

aromulus
7th February 2010, 20:40
I dunno how it may work out for you Brits, but being an Italian in Britain is rather cool....:D

darren-b
7th February 2010, 20:41
a little confused.

a valid UK residence permit with the endorsement "family member of EEA national";

The ID card my wife received recently (Dec), which is effectively a UK
residence permit has the following:
Type of Permit
SPOUSE/PARTNER
LEAVE TO REMAIN

... which I'm sure is the standard "message" on all the ID's
Certainly no mention of "family member of EEA national" ....

So I'm wondering if the ID card is valid proof for them ...and if
not, how the hell do u obtain this "proof" of being a family member of an
EEA national ?

If you are a British citizen living in the UK then this doesn't apply to you as your wife's visa was issued under British rules rather than EU rules.

joebloggs
7th February 2010, 21:42
If you are a British citizen living in the UK then this doesn't apply to you as your wife's visa was issued under British rules rather than EU rules.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

It seems strange, but it is true that a British citizen has more rights to enjoy family life in any one of the seventeen other member countries of EEA than they do in the country of their own citizenship!:Cuckoo::crazy:

:D sorry dom :76: :doh

aromulus
7th February 2010, 21:47
:D sorry dom :76: :doh

Its ok.....:rolleyes:

joebloggs
7th February 2010, 23:08
Its ok.....:rolleyes:

but you have to :icon_lol: about it dom :doh

Bluebirdjones
7th February 2010, 23:26
ok ... I understand now...(i think)...

.. basically if u are Polish, German, French (Italian - Dom), etc etc, living in the UK,
and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit), then no visa is required.

... if u are British, living in the UK, and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit),
then a visa is required.

Absolutely amazing.
You couldn't make it up.

.... we've an appointment at the French Embassy next week.
We'll try and mention this & see if we get any reaction/response.

joebloggs
8th February 2010, 00:12
ok ... I understand now...(i think)...

.. basically if u are Polish, German, French (Italian - Dom), etc etc, living in the UK,
and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit), then no visa is required.

... if u are British, living in the UK, and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit),
then a visa is required.

Absolutely amazing.
You couldn't make it up.

.... we've an appointment at the French Embassy next week.
We'll try and mention this & see if we get any reaction/response.

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

:icon_lol:, all us brits should go and live in france or Italy and :censored: them up, claim everything we can :rolleyes:

:xxparty-smiley-004:

aromulus
8th February 2010, 07:42
:xxgrinning--00xx3:

:icon_lol:, all us brits should go and live in france or Italy and :censored: them up, claim everything we can :rolleyes:

:xxparty-smiley-004:

The only thing you can claim in Italy or France, would be Asylum, and they will give you the directions to get to Calais...:erotic4:

darren-b
8th February 2010, 07:51
ok ... I understand now...(i think)...

.. basically if u are Polish, German, French (Italian - Dom), etc etc, living in the UK,
and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit), then no visa is required.

... if u are British, living in the UK, and married to a Filipina (with a UK residence permit),
then a visa is required.

Absolutely amazing.
You couldn't make it up.

.... we've an appointment at the French Embassy next week.
We'll try and mention this & see if we get any reaction/response.

This directive isn't particular new, it's been around for a while, though immigration officers haven't always recognised the directive.

johncar54
8th February 2010, 09:05
Aromulus.

I posted a question recently about a UK National living in Pinas with his wife, who wanted to know how to get a visa for Spain.

As there is free travel in the Schengen area, I wonder if a 'qualified spouse' wanting to go to any Schengen country, could do so without a visa,as long as the arrival airport was in France.

What do you, and others, think ?

aromulus
8th February 2010, 09:33
Aromulus.

I posted a question recently about a UK National living in Pinas with his wife, who wanted to know how to get a visa for Spain.

As there is free travel in the Schengen area, I wonder if a 'qualified spouse' wanting to go to any Schengen country, could do so without a visa,as long as the arrival airport was in France.

What do you, and others, think ?

I am not quite sure how to go about this one, but here an embassy visa link for Spain.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
http://www.maec.es/subwebs/Consulados/Londres/en/MenuPpal/Servicios/Visados/Paginas/conditionsapplication_services.aspx

darren-b
8th February 2010, 10:34
Aromulus.

I posted a question recently about a UK National living in Pinas with his wife, who wanted to know how to get a visa for Spain.

As there is free travel in the Schengen area, I wonder if a 'qualified spouse' wanting to go to any Schengen country, could do so without a visa,as long as the arrival airport was in France.

What do you, and others, think ?

She can't do this without a visa. Without a visa she won't even get onto the plane to Europe.

johncar54
8th February 2010, 13:11
She can't do this without a visa. Without a visa she won't even get onto the plane to Europe.

Thanks. You ma be right, but I know Filipinos can travel to say Malaysia. Thailand without a visa, and of course those with residencias in Europe also.

It just seems that if France do not need a visa, then the Immigration at MNL will / should accept that too.

darren-b
8th February 2010, 13:32
Thanks. You ma be right, but I know Filipinos can travel to say Malaysia. Thailand without a visa, and of course those with residencias in Europe also.

It just seems that if France do not need a visa, then the Immigration at MNL will / should accept that too.

France like all the other schengen countries do require a visa.

All that has been highlighted here is a visa issued by the UK to the spouse of a EU (not British) citizen who is resident in the UK can be used as a schengen visa.

johncar54
8th February 2010, 14:54
France like all the other schengen countries do require a visa.

All that has been highlighted here is a visa issued by the UK to the spouse of a EU (not British) citizen who is resident in the UK can be used as a schengen visa.

Sorry. must be having a senile moment, or two !!!!

I read the conditions which Romulus posted, as 'either' of the conditions, not all of them.

Must keep taking the pills !!!!!!