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    Angry Inexcusable!

    It is EXACTLY that!

    17~yr~old Kian Loyd delos Santos's tragic death should be used as a "pawn" - the latest ploy by the Yellow Mafia - to deflect from any imminent investigation into the integrity of Andy Bautista, the beleagured COMELEC Chairperson.

    http://manilastandard.net/opinion/co...sing-kian.html ...



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    Far more inexcusable is the murder of a child period! Forget indignation at the besmirchment of someones integrity, kid wouldn't have been killed if Duterte hadn't given carte blanche to plod AND promised to serve their jail time for them if any were prosecuted for extra judicial killings. He is now backtracking on that promise as usual. Lots of collateral damage in a war like this, just another casualty that would have been swept under the carpet were it not for the CCTV. How many other innocents have gotten a .45 in the nut?
    Several non-Philippine news agencies are running the story, there's also VITAL incriminating footage of the boy being led away in a headlock by plod to be shot in a dirty corner.


    Rodrigo Duterte, Kian Loyd Delos Santos and the media.

    Will the killing of a 17-year-old be a turning point in Duterte's war on drugs and those reporting on it?
    Fifteen months into his presidency, Rodrigo Duterte's brutal crackdown on the drug trade does not seem to be slowing down.

    The Philippine president says he wants to kill as many people involved with drugs as possible and lists his critics as "public enemies". Journalists are among the people on that list, and now, NGO workers have also been moved into that category.

    Earlier this month, the President told the police, on camera, to shoot human rights workers who "obstruct justice". Duterte clearly understands the role such advocates play in the media food chain. Silencing them is another way to keep a lid on this story.

    Despite his critics in the media, the polls say Duterte remains popular with Filipinos. For that, he may have bloggers and social media figures to thank. The so-called DDS, Die-hard Duterte Supporters, have the president's back, denigrating his critics online and shaping public opinion.

    "Human rights groups are beginning to gain ground. So now he has to take them on," says Vergel Santos, chairman, Center for Media Freedom and Responsibility. "When you are a president who is predisposed to a dictatorial leadership, you are necessarily against human rights."

    Earlier this week, CCTV footage showed a subdued 17-year-old.Kian Loyd Delos Santos.getting dragged by police into an alley, where he was subsequently killed. Police called it a shoot-out with a drug suspect, but eyewitnesses say he was distraught, telling the police he had to go home, that he had school the next day. They say the police gave him a gun and told him to run. He was shot and killed.

    It was just one death, among the thousands killed in the Filipino war of drugs. But this particular killing - and the story behind it - have lingered in the mainstream news media and online, in a way that others have not.

    It wasn't the Filipino media's reporting, their constant documenting of the killings or their raising of human rights issues that ended up putting police under investigation and the Duterte government on the defensive.

    It was pure happenstance, the existence of a single CCTV camera, and the emergence of about two seconds of real-time video that put the lie to the official version of one teenager's brutal killing, that changed the story.

    "In the other killings, it's just the police version saying that, you know, that the criminal allegedly fought it out with them and that's why they were killed," says Felipe Villamor, Philippines reporter for The New York Times. But in Kian's case, "they [the police] got caught."

    Full story..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...d_delos_Santos
    Footage...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=1BurcPcn8zs



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    Police Report [Edit]

    According to the official police report, at around 8:45 p.m, Delos Santos tried to flee when he noticed the police officers approaching him. He then drew his gun and "directly shot" towards the police, which prompted PO3 Arnel Oares to fire back in self-defense, killing Delos Santos. The pistol, cartridges, and two sachets of methamphetamine were then found in Delos Santos's possession.

    The above didn't happen,you actually see the boy being dragged away to the alley in a headlock to bump up the numbers of "addicts" being killed.Lots of discrepancies in the story.

    Delos Santos's uncle, Randy, questioned the police claim that the victim had a concealed firearm, since his nephew was wearing boxers at that time. [3] Delos Santos's father, Saldy, also pointed out that the pistol was recovered from the left hand of his otherwise right-handed son.



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    Duterte wants to kill 32 individuals every day innocent/guilty/young/old doesn't really matter as long as the numbers stack up

    Police killed at least 27 people in Manila on the third night of a new push in Duterte's war on drugs and crime, taking the toll for one of the bloodiest weeks so far to 94, according to officials.

    Philippine police 'dumping bodies' of drug war victims

    Earlier in the week, 67 people were shot and nearly 250 arrested in Manila and provinces adjoining the Philippines capital, in what police described as a "One-Time, Big-Time" push to curb drugs and street crime.
    President Duterte hailed the recent killing of 32 drug suspects in a 24-hour police crackdown, the highest death toll in a single day in his administration's anti-drug war..
    "That's beautiful. If we can only kill 32 every day, then maybe we can reduce what ails this country," Duterte said on Wednesday..
    According to police statistics, more than 3,000 suspects have been killed in anti-drug operations since Duterte became president on June 30, 2016..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Far more inexcusable is the murder of a child period! Forget indignation at the besmirchment of someones integrity, kid wouldn't have been killed if Duterte hadn't given carte blanche to plod AND promised to serve their jail time for them if any were prosecuted for extra judicial killings. He is now backtracking on that promise as usual. Lots of collateral damage in a war like this, just another casualty that would have been swept under the carpet were it not for the CCTV. How many other innocents have gotten a .45 in the nut?
    ... terribly sad ANY child being gunned down [for whatever motive(s)!] But, of course, there again ... ... in fairness to > Duterte, < he'd made it abundantly clear - to his political rivals & supporters alike - that ... "pushers" caught dealing in illegal drugs would be shown NO mercy! And that was BEFORE he was overwhelmingly elected. So, ... where, in goodness name, has he backtracked? Indeed, he has since met with the murdered boy's grief~stricken parents - pledging to bring those rogue police officers responsible for their son's killing to justice.

    See - http://manilastandard.net/news/top-s...kian-loyd.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    pledging to bring the police officers responsible for their son's killing to justice.
    That's the back-track right there Arthur, right there. First he gives carte blanche and says no officer will serve time for extra judicial killings and he himself will happily sit in a cell and do the time any officer should get Now he pledges to bring them to justice That is the back-track right there, or should I say back-peddle. He is the causation of this, stemming way back to the DDS days, the 17 year old isn't the youngest murdered, there's been a 4 year old and 2 five year olds. Duterte has seen the CCTV footage that's whats made him pledge to bring the cops to justice. Quite embarrassing for him, bet they all wished the footage never existed. As for visiting the parents of the murdered boy, guilty conscience is what I would say. Then I thought Conscience?? Perhaps not maybe he just realised the crap-storm this could cause, presidential damage limitation exercise with 3 cops stupidly caught on camera that must be sacrificed to the wolves so the show can continue.



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    'SUSPECTS'


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    back|track
    [ˈbaktrak]

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    reverse one's previous position or opinion:


    "I will not allow, even at the risk of losing the presidency, any policeman or soldier to go to prison for destroying the drug industry," Duterte said.

    "For those who are facing charges, they can be very sure they can walk out free men," he added.

    http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/06/28/1...will-walk-free

    "I will not allow these guys to go to prison even if the National Bureau of Investigation says it was murder," Rappler quoted the outspoken president as saying in Mandaluyong City on Wednesday.

    Licence to kill, even kids



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    I am actually hesitant to post anything negative about the man.

    That's how bad it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    I am actually hesitant to post anything negative about the man.

    That's how bad it is.
    I watched a video earlier, he has bloggers constantly denigrating anyone who has anything negative to say about him online, he actually hires people to do that.



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    10th fastest growing economy in the world. There's quite a lot of positives about his presidency.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    10th fastest growing economy in the world. There's quite a lot of positives about his presidency.
    So what are the others ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    10th fastest growing economy in the world.
    Yes, you're right, Marco,!

    http://conceptnewscentral.com/index....-economy-2017/ ... confirms it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarcoi View Post
    There's quite a lot of positives about his presidency.
    Undeniably!

    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    So what are the others ?
    ... d'you mean the other countries? ... surely the link above speaks for itself.


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    Finally, the writer also observed that President Duterte’s strict domestic policies and foreign policy shifts have not undermined the Philippines’ economic growth.

    Havent undermined according to the Philippine writer,have they actually helped though in his short presidency marred by his civil rights abuses,the fact the writer pointed that out is mute testament to something,i read somewhere that the Philippines economic growth forecast is due to the increasing population who are working abroad and remitting home which isn't anything to do with duterte and his "No more Filipino OFW's" promise



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    If anyone is interested in seeing which 9 economies are growing quicker than the Philippines then here's the link

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/...ies-in-2017-2/


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    If anyone is interested in seeing which 9 economies are growing quicker than the Philippines then here's the link

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/...ies-in-2017-2/
    I tend to agree with this anyway:

    'The pitfalls of using GDP

    GDP has been has been widely used over the years to measure economic progress. But many argue that itís not a useful indicator. Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, IMF head Christine Lagarde and MIT professor Erik Brynjolfsson have all said GDP is a poor indicator of progress, and argued for a change to the way we measure economic and social development.

    Alternatives could include measuring jobs, well-being and health. GDP also ignores the impact of important things like climate change'.


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    No more westerner customers lately but literally 100`s of Chinese looking for rooms in our area alone for the last two months.
    They throw cash around like it`s not fashionable and as all local businesses have noticed..They don`t seem to complain, bitch or moan.
    Looks like I`ll have to learn to cook authentic Chinese noodles..


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    Sounds promising.


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    The most important thing for him, is that he retains the confidence of his own people. His approval ratings are in the 80's so I think it's fair to say the people think he's doing a good job. I've been a couple of times this year and there seems to be plenty of building work going on and money being spent on roads etc. We have a couple of family members who've found jobs in the last 6 months, not great jobs, but work nonetheless.
    People have been moaning for years about politicians and corruption in the Philippines so they voted for a different way and it's only fair he gets a chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    The most important thing for him, is that he retains the confidence of his own people.
    ... Indeed it is - and he HAS - ONE HUNDRED percent!


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