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10th September 2014 #1
Sixteen ... Too Young To Vote
16 ... currently the earliest school leaving age for UK pupils.
Yet somewhat "miraculously", Scotland's Nationalist Administration managed to pass legislation that would grant *kids in their mid teens (I use the *word loosely!) the privilege of being able to cast their votes. No prizes for guessing WHY - even if (as subsequently transpired) such a bold initiative failed to take root in its intended purpose.
It could only happen up here ... ... or could it?
... when folk of my generation were growing up you had to be 21 or over to be eligible - then, at a later stage (I forget which year it was exactly) the qualifying age became 18 - despite the fact you could legally marry at sweet sixteen.
It would be interesting to read members' general consensus of opinion on this issue.
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10th September 2014 #2
Simple manipulation by Salmond. Easy to impress on young minds, flag-waving nationalism. Get 'Braveheart' on Scottish TV next wed night. Job done.
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10th September 2014 #3
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I'm totally against it along with allowing the EU & Warsaw Pact citizens to vote
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10th September 2014 #4
I have given up on them now. It's like when a top player at your club states he wants a move. At first you're gutted, then as he demands this and that you think well, off you go then .... you are not bigger than my club.
You want to leave the club - then please go - we will manage perfectly well (and often better) without you!
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10th September 2014 #6
Sorry Arthur, it's just that some Scots are coming across very Anti-English
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10th September 2014 #7
Under UK law you're still a minor under 18, thou you can work at 16
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10th September 2014 #10
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I really can't see the point of comparing minimum ages for this and that.
Voting at 16 ? Ridiculous.
Personally I'd make it 30 (again?) when hopefully people have at least a little sense and life experience.
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11th September 2014 #11
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12th September 2014 #12
Before I start, I will just say I do not mean to offend with this statement but, as someone who I think is a little closer to the age of 16 than most of you gents commenting here, I think you are completely underestimating the abilities and intelligence of the young people. I agree there are many who are too immature to really make an informed decision however there are a large number who have a genuine interest and understanding of politics so why should they not be allowed to have a say in a decision that they are going to have to live with and that will more likely have more of an impact on their lives than it will on us older ones as they will have to live with it for longer?
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12th September 2014 #13
Well you said it yourself that many are too immature to vote at 16.myself at 16 I would have voted yes fuelled by nationalism. All I was into was women, cheap cider and motorcyclesI I look back and reckon by the age of 19 I would of had more maturity and would be much more informed.
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12th September 2014 #16
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12th September 2014 #17
Hmm ... there, Abigail ... and, since I was the geezer responsible for initiating this thread, I'd better set the record straight.
Possibly - or, more than likely ... living in Aberdeen as you do - you tuned into the 'BIG, BIG Debate' televised live yesterday evening from the SSE Hydro in Glasgow ... where the Conference Hall was packed to capacity with an audience of several thousand schoolkids from all over Scotland, eager to quiz four key politicians picked to represent BOTH sides of the Campaign.
Having watched it myself, I was surprisingly impressed by how politically astute these youngsters actually were.
NOT for them, the prospect of being bitten by the 'Salmondella bug' (Jamie mentions in #11) with its vision of a 'Utopian Society' built on false ideologies ... they preferred to focus on the realities of how going it alone affected their hopes and aspirations for the future - rather than some unattainable pipe dream.
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12th September 2014 #18
Also I would imagine lots of sixteen year olds would have to vote for whichever way their parents would tell them!
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12th September 2014 #19
Not necessarily, Michael ... from watching that programme, it seemed clear to
me, that those kids who took the opportunity to "grill" the panelists, already had their own, individual ideas on where they'd like their futures to lie - in say, ten, twenty or thirty years' time - without bowing to, or being influenced by parental pressure.
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12th September 2014 #20
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What sort of kids would one expect to turn up for a political panel show...ready with questions ?
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Exactly.
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12th September 2014 #23
The PC Brigade has it's fair share of pontificating youngsters!
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13th September 2014 #25
I believe Salmond will be putting forward his ideas for Scotlands defence policy in the event of a yes vote.
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13th September 2014 #26
Now Salmond is a cocky wee shte
Thinking that he is always right!
But wait till Thursday comes along ...
When the Scots' Electorate proves 'im wrong!
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15th September 2014 #27
Arthur, I am not saying the question shouldn't be raised, and as I say there are certainly some teens who do not care about a sensible decision. However there are a large number of youngsters nowadays becoming more and more involved in politics and who have a good understanding of what is going on and I was simply saying is it not fair that they have the right to vote in what is such a huge debate.
Michael, I think your comment about them voting for what their parents want is not true either. I mean, really, how many 16 year olds do you know that do what they are told! lol
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16th September 2014 #29
I've been quite impressed by some of the youngsters from both sides of the debate. Personally it makes sense to me to involve them in the process as soon as possible. After all we're quick enough to put a gun in their hands and send them off to some hell hole in defence of democracy.
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16th September 2014 #30
Yes but equally the ones who would not impress you do not get airplay. You only see the selected more articulate ones. At 16 myself and my mates were busy with other things lol
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