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    Local Government Elections In England & Wales

    I have to say that - being a Scot - I am most surprised to discover I'm the first member to raise a thread on the above.

    Not that their outcome makes that much difference to me ... ... but still ...!

    UKIP certainly showed they were a "force to be reckoned with" (as predicted!) ... gaining a commendable 13% of the total vote - nearly half that of their leading contenders, Labour - while the Tories and their Lib Dem coalition partners (perhaps unsurpringly!) BOTH took quite a "hammering" at last Thursday's polls.

    Now ... for those who are interested in seeing how Nigel Farage's MEP candidates fared ... it's simply a case of watching David Dimbleby's 'European Elections Special' - commencing at 11.15 on BBC1 tomorrow night.

    Normally, I'm inclined to be critical of too many political posts ... but these are crucial times for the UK in general if we're hoping to witness a welcome shift away from 's two MAINSTREAM parties and have a BIGGER say in our affairs both at home and on the European stage.



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    Dedworth hasn't posted about this because the Tories lost 230 councillors, the Libs lost 307 and Labour gained 338

    The Tories don't even have one councillor in Manchester or Liverpool

    MANCHESTER: LAB hold
    Party Seats Change+/-
    Labour 95 +9
    Independent 1 0
    Liberal Democrat 0 -9

    LIVERPOOL: LAB hold
    Party Seats Change+/-
    Labour 79 +7
    Green Party 4 +2
    Liberal 3 0
    Liberal Democrat 3 -9
    Independent 1 0
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    Not at all Joe, this was predicted because voting UKIP was certainly not a vote for Labour - but it had the effect of taking votes off the Conservatives enabling Labour to win by default.

    Won't last, people will calm down over UKIP - it's given both parties a bloody nose and the next 12 months will be a good battle.

    Very poor turn out too.

    I'm sure next year will be a bigger turnout, but none of us can deny UKIP have redrawn the battlefield - gonna be interesting to say the least.

    My hope is Milliband stays as leader


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    Les, it's a disaster for the Tories and Libs, tomorrow will be an even bigger disaster for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    Les its a disaster for the Tories and Libs, tomorrow will be an even bigger disaster for them

    Well it ain't that good for Labour is it Joe - both the shadow cabinet & rank & file MP's are realising what an inept clown Mr Ed is, obviously I hope they keep him for "leader".

    Local & General elections are different animals and the party in Govt normally gets shafted in local elections.

    The British working class are realising that Millipede and his motley crew are pro Illegal Immigrants, Eastern European Cut Price Workers, Terrorists, Criminals and Benefit Spongers

    Local elections 2014: surge by UKIP throws Labour into poll crisis

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ll-crisis.html


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    The local elections saw UKIP gain more than 150 council seats in both Labour and Conservative heartlands – including some key marginal areas of Essex. The Liberal Democrats suffered humiliation in several areas.


    The Tories lost 230 councillors, the Libs lost 307 and Labour gained 338
    You keep saying how better off everyone is. Why are they not voting for the Tories then?
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    The savaging of Red Ed: Shadow Cabinet turn on Miliband as Labour pays price for ignoring Farage

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz32f4kXu7w


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    What do you expect from a Tory rag Dedworth? You really think the Mail will print it's a massive disaster for the Tories losing 230 councillors? What will they print for tomorrow's Tory thrashing?

    http://sluggerotoole.com/2014/05/24/...s-complicated/

    The Mail must have missed these headlines

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-election.html
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/key-poll-sh...ection-1449909
    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...table-majority
    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-...able-majority/
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    Labour have not fared well at all, people were not voting Labour over Conservative, and neither will they next year as people realise who got them out of this Labour disaster.

    As me and Ded agree, and so do many people, you will be shafted by your leader. He is inept and weak. Please keep him till next year


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    Not fared well? Tell me how the Tories and Libs did Les. Are you sure you're looking at this year's results
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    The fool will be losing the Jewish vote as he's forgotten they're not supposed to eat pork


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    Labour will easily win the election next year. It may be even worse for the Tories if the property bubble in London bursts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Labour will easily win the election next year. It may be even worse for the Tories if the property bubble in London bursts.
    http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...roperty-market
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    Labour will easily win the election next year
    Lets all pray they don't,or we will all be shafted-short memories some people


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Let's all pray they don't, or we will all be shafted - short memories some people
    Just as bad as the bunch of shafters we have in now, but nice to have a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Let's all pray they don't, or we will all be shafted - short memories some people
    Some people, I've got a longer memory being shafted by Thatcher
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    Unfortunately Labour shafted everyone in this country - worst government we have ever had!


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Unfortunately labour shafted everyone in this country-worst government we have ever had
    Along with wilfully changing the ethnic make up of our country


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Labour will easily win the election next year.
    ... God forbid ... I hope not!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... God forbid ... I hope not!
    Unfortunately there are naive mugs unable to see through Millipedes leftist student union politics


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    Well Dedworth, if that useless mob ever get in we will have a field day listening to Andy's and Joe's excuses every week.


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    As I've said before, at least with the Tories you know what you are getting, and despite the fat cats they do seem to be sorting out the economy. Labour are just a joke, much like the Lib Dems, pretending to be the peoples' party and understanding the needs of the working classes but are really just a bunch of old Etonians...

    UKIP may force some parties to realise that the electorate aren't happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Labour will easily win the election next year. It may be even worse for the Tories if the property bubble in London bursts.
    Not a chance! They might win, but they'll not get an overall majority. Lib Lab coalition at best.

    Milliband is a liability now. People don't trust him. He's another Kinnock, people don't see him as Prime minister. Besides, how can you trust a man who stabbed his own brother in the back.

    They're out of touch with their own base on EU and they're not prepared to listen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Labour have not fared well at all
    From what i can see Labour have taken at least 50% of local councils up for grabs

    I think you should donate a tenner to the forum Les

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....-will-vote-for


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    Wow! you've certainly got the ball rolling now Arthur


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    From what i can see Labour have taken at least 50% of local councils up for grabs

    I think you should donate a tenner to the forum Les
    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....-will-vote-for
    How did the Tories and Libs do then Les, if Labour didn't fare well at all? Come on, second time of asking you now. How did they do?? I'm waiting for your reply with bated breath

    Oh and can you also reply later today, on how well the Tories did in the Euro elections after they've been wiped out
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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Well Dedworth, if that useless mob ever get in we will have a field day listening to Andy's and Joe's excuses every week.
    No excuses from me but you might get a smiley face as a reply.


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    people were not voting Labour over Conservative,
    While it won more than 330 extra councillors in Thursday's poll, projections suggested Labour only secured a 2% lead over its Tory rivals.

    Not good enough a year before a General Election and the next 12 months will show how clueless they are no doubt


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmarco View Post
    Not a chance.
    The overall statistical trend is for Labour to win by a majority. Ignore all the media polls which are flawed, and look at the official ones. Even with Labour taking a drop in recent months, they are still clear of the tories.

    I'll be voting Plaid Cymru to get people like me out of Wales

    I have no idea why people blame past governments. When the current government has been in power over a year, then they have had every chance to correct things. So the only government that can ever be blamed for the way things are, will be the current one, regardless of which party it is. Otherwise we can blame the French for or language, the Romans for some sill place names, and stoneage man for not setting up a democracy quick enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    While it won more than 330 extra councillors in Thursday's poll, projections suggested Labour only secured a 2% lead over its Tory rivals.

    Not good enough a year before a General Election and the next 12 months will show how clueless they are no doubt
    So this time next year Les, the Tories are going to win by a massive majority ?

    A lead is a lead, you keep posting about how everyone is doing better, why are the Tories not 10% to 20% ahead of Labour then ???
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