South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies

[raynaputi]

South Africa's first black president and anti-apartheid icon Nelson Mandela has died, South Africa's president says.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520

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RIP Nelson Mandela..

[grahamw48]

Yes, just seen it on my facebook.

A truly great man. RIP.

Some words we can all relate to on this forum...


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[Terpe]

Yes, saw it on the news. Not totally unexpected. But still so sad. A truly great man. His presence will be missed from the world.
Feel a bit speechless.

[Arthur Little]

A truly great man. His presence will be missed from the world.

... RIP, Nelson Mandela.

[Michael Parnham]

Followed his life for many years, great man indeed, RIP!

[Ako Si Jamie]

Top guy. R.I.P Nelson.

[Dedworth]

A giant

[joebloggs]

A giant

not what some Tories thought Dedworth..

'The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987

'How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist?' - Terry Dicks MP, mid-1980s

'Nelson Mandela should be shot' - Teddy Taylor MP, mid-1980s

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1327902.html

[Arthur Little]

not what some Tories thought Dedworth..

'The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987

'How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist?' - Terry Dicks MP, mid-1980s

'Nelson Mandela should be shot' - Teddy Taylor MP, mid-1980s

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1327902.html

Aye, but Joe ... *David Cameron apologised for his predecessors' misgivings when *he later met Mandela.

[joebloggs]

Aye, but Joe ... *David Cameron apologised for his predecessors' misgivings when *he later met Mandela.

Arthur how can anyone else apologise for what someone else has said, that can only come from the person who originally said it, after all we don't know if Thatcher or the other Tory MP's regret saying what they did

[grahamw48]

Aren't there enough Tory v Labour threads on here ?

[raynaputi]

Aren't there enough Tory v Labour threads on here ?

[londonupnorth]

Tory vs Labour??? Tories vs basic humanity more like.

[grahamw48]

Yawn.

[Dedworth]

not what some Tories thought Dedworth..

'The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987

'How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist?' - Terry Dicks MP, mid-1980s

'Nelson Mandela should be shot' - Teddy Taylor MP, mid-1980s

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-1327902.html

back in selective history mode again Joe. Did you ever find out more about the Caymen Islands Company who owned the house purportedly occupied by Mrs Thatcher in her final years or was it part of Cherie Blair Estates all along ?

[joebloggs]

selective memory, many in the Tory party are racists, an ex-Tory MP Peter Harry Steve Griffiths died only a couple of weeks ago and represented Smethwick, can you tell me what the Tory slogan was in Smethwick for the 1964 election was






http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/482565.stm

[joebloggs]

Aren't there enough Tory v Labour threads on here ?

well with dedworth only reporting Labour sleaze, to balance the fairness i've posted about Tory sleaze, the fact is they both are as bad as each other

[bigmarco]

I think the word hero is handed out a little to easily nowadays. However Mandela most definitely falls into this category.
It really doesn't matter what the modern day politician has to say about him because he will now occupy a place in history that most politicians can only dream of. His work is most definitely done now and may he rest in peace as Africa's greatest ever hero.

[SimonH]

Can we all for once keep this on the topic it was intended to be and not turn it into a "what did some politician say in 19"

He was a great inspiration to millions, and his legacy lives on.

Rest in peace Mr Mandela

[johncar54]

Have I been looking at another Mandela on the Internet, as the one I see is not that kindly grandfather figure I see on the TV ?

QUOTE:

He signed off on the deaths of innocent people, lots of them

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

Tellingly, not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”

[joebloggs]

interesting video on thatcher here by channel 4 news, i remember her talking about the so little £.5m krugerrand, if so little why not do it ? makes you wonder why , for those with short and selective memories of thatcher watch the video

http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbo...ndela-uk/27176

[grahamw48]

I'm not going to watch it...because I think she was wonderful.

[les_taxi]

I'm not going to watch it...because I think she was wonderful.

She was 2nd greatest leader of all time for me
But this was about Nelson Mandela-no need to bring anyone else into this

[joebloggs]

She was 2nd greatest leader of all time for me
But this was about Nelson Mandela-no need to bring anyone else into this

now if it was blair, it would be a completely different matter

les, you know what...




the video bit of her going on about the krugerrand, is creepy and makes me feel , didn't Dennis have business interests in SA , i wonder if it was his £.5m a year